WickedYoungMan wrote:steven_crayn wrote:I was using an extreme example to make the point that opinions whatever they are can be challenged, even if you don't think so.
Right, but you were going a bit too far IMHO. He doesn't like it, deal. You were hoping to prove his opinion wrong or prove that he was wrong somehow just how you were trying to "corner" him, which is wrong itself.
The lyrics are lyrics repeat line chorus argument doesn't stand up,
To you..... One of the examples was HALF the song.
are you telling me Elected isn't a great lyric just because on the chorus we have the word Elected repeated over and over?
The word isn't repeated over and over and over 14 times in one setting.
Now can you see the importance of the full context of lyrics?
Lyric is a lyric.
I'm not tring to corner anybody so please spare me the sanctimony, I think you are getting a bit paranoid.
If people don't rate the album that is their opinion, my problem is statements like the lyrics are bland, not very good etc.. you can have an opinion but back it up if you are going to question Alice Cooper as a lyricist.
Simplistic responses like "lyrics are lyrics" is not only pretty childish, but not true.
Context is everything in a lyric.
For example using your stance, If you just saw the words
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
I love the dead
on a bit of paper using your argument, you would think that isn't a very good lyric, it's just repetition.
However, if you were to see them in their full context with the verse, we can see the bigger picture
I love the dead before they're cold
Their blueing flesh for me to hold
Cadaver eyes upon me see... nothing
I love the dead before they rise
No farewells, no goodbyes
I never even knew your now rotting face
While friends and lovers mourn your silly grave
I have other uses for you Darling
Why can't you see that your selective use of repetition to suit your argument falls down?
Rock lyrics don't usually lend themselves to iambic pentameter (Shakespeare's primary meter) you could come up with a Macbeth 12 bar Blues (by repeating the first line stanza)
I will not be afraid of death or bane
I will not be afraid of death or bane
Till Birnam Forest come to Dunsinane
The point being the written word though often it can stand alone, as a song lyric is best seen not only in its full lyrical context but musically as well.