Re: unsung heroes
Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 8:18 am
>Sorry, I meant Jack Douglas
That did occur to me (and he produced "Platinum God", I think).
That did occur to me (and he produced "Platinum God", I think).
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I do remember reading something ( maybe in Michael's book) about Jack Richardson getting really into CRazy Little Child and something about either Richardson himself playing drums or getting someone else in. Also in an interview with Shindig magazine Neal said the one ACG song he really didn't like was CLC.pitkin88 wrote:scotty wrote:Andy,to divulge the alleged famous drummer,would that be something I'd need to PM you about,or would you state that here? or neither? I know you don't do rumors so I respect however you fall on this.
The drummers name is Alan Schwatrzberg if I remember correctly. He claimed Neal wasn't cutting it and that his tracks were wiped and replaced and that Neal had no idea. I did start a thread on this and pmd Neal who responded. I don't have time to re look for the thread but it was definitely discussed here.
Regarding Crazy Little Child, in the MOL chapter in MB's book it states that '...we didn't use Neal's original drum tracks. Initially he had played something with a very heavy feel to it, but later Jack Richardson had his band's drummer redo the tracks.'Babysquid wrote:I do remember reading something ( maybe in Michael's book) about Jack Richardson getting really into CRazy Little Child and something about either Richardson himself playing drums or getting someone else in. Also in an interview with Shindig magazine Neal said the one ACG song he really didn't like was CLC.
On another note i think I saw a picture of the track sheet for generation landslide and the harmonica tracks were listed as Alice Harmonica. However I may be wrong.
If that's the case and Allan Schwartzberg is the drummer on CLC, then the version with NS on CLC would have made an excellent inclusion on the Old School box set.Ted Sallis wrote:Regarding Crazy Little Child, in the MOL chapter in MB's book it states that '...we didn't use Neal's original drum tracks. Initially he had played something with a very heavy feel to it, but later Jack Richardson had his band's drummer redo the tracks.'Babysquid wrote:I do remember reading something ( maybe in Michael's book) about Jack Richardson getting really into CRazy Little Child and something about either Richardson himself playing drums or getting someone else in. Also in an interview with Shindig magazine Neal said the one ACG song he really didn't like was CLC.
On another note i think I saw a picture of the track sheet for generation landslide and the harmonica tracks were listed as Alice Harmonica. However I may be wrong.
Ted
With both drummers not being able to recall the either's name, my guess is there is no love lost between the two. Perhaps NS saw AS roaming the halls during the recording of MoL and wondered WTF is another drummer doing here? And then AS committed the cardinal sin of playing on Neal's kitpitkin88 wrote:Ok I found Neal's response:
Hey Andy,
My only comment is that there are still people that think the world is flat and that the moon is made out of cheese. Alice once said that he was Eddie Haskell, and people believed him, come on give me a **** break!! It was not true, but people believed him anyway. This studio musician guy who I’ve never heard of before by the way, did play on some of Alice’s solo recordings and can say anything he wants. Just like Alice having fun with the Eddie Haskell thing. But at the end of the day it’s the legendary band Alice Cooper members; Glen Buxton, Michael Bruce, Alice Cooper, Dennis Dunaway and Neal Smith who’s walls are covered with Gold and Platinum albums and are nominees to the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame class of 2011, not the studio musicians that may or may not have played on our records.
Cheers and be sure to VOTE!!!!!
Neal Smith
The Platinum God
A_MichaelUK wrote:From Toronto Bob:
"then the version with NS on CLC would have made an excellent inclusion on the Old School box set."
Maybe so but that's only if it isn't as bad as Jack Richardson allegedly thought it was and that's also assuming the recording still exists and that it would have been made available to the compilers of that collection.
I agree with AMUK, there's been no statement(s) accusing anybody of lying. And to expand on his comment above, Alice himself referred to Michael's book as being fiction.A_MichaelUK wrote:From pitkin88:
"maybe you should pm Neal find out who is lying/mis recollecting."
Who said anyone was "lying"?! I certainly did not. Read again what I wrote because as usual, you've missed the point which is that different people remember things differently. It doesn't mean anyone is "lying" (although Glem did refer to Michael's book as "Lumpy's book of lies").
Ted Sallis wrote:I agree with AMUK, there's been no statement(s) accusing anybody of lying. And to expand on his comment above, Alice himself referred to Michael's book as being fiction.A_MichaelUK wrote:From pitkin88:
"maybe you should pm Neal find out who is lying/mis recollecting."
Who said anyone was "lying"?! I certainly did not. Read again what I wrote because as usual, you've missed the point which is that different people remember things differently. It doesn't mean anyone is "lying" (although Glem did refer to Michael's book as "Lumpy's book of lies").
Ted
Devon wrote:Yes, Alice can stretch the truth or have an imagination, but not to the point that he ends up insulting or discrediting people. THAT'S the difference.