Recent Re-Issues

departmentofyouth · Post by **departmentofyouth** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:45 am

Has anyone actually picked up any of the re-issues for PFY, EA, MOL, ACGTH, L&W?

I know they are not "newly remasterd" and not with the grand Rhino treatment of bonus fun stuff. But, I am wondering how they sound. I have multiple versions (US, German, Japanese) issues for all of those and they all have subtle differences in sound quality. The Japanese discs have more clarity, but the cd's are quiet by todays standards, since i purchased them nearly 20 years ago.

If anyone has the old and newly re-issued versions, please advise on any sonic differences!

RemarkablyInsincere · Post by **RemarkablyInsincere** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 am

You're better off with "quiet" CDs as opposed to CDs with the dynamic range squashed by compression.

Modern mastering techniques leave a lot to be desired.

departmentofyouth · Post by **departmentofyouth** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:20 am

Modern mastering techniques leave a lot to be desired.

Ha Ha! I hear that!

Malchik · Post by **Malchik** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:57 am

RemarkablyInsincere wrote:You're better off with "quiet" CDs as opposed to CDs with the dynamic range squashed by compression.

Modern mastering techniques leave a lot to be desired.

Amen brother.

These re-issues are the same as the last with some copyright and slight package change. They are the same transfers from the original CDs.

Shoesalesman · Post by **Shoesalesman** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:48 pm

RemarkablyInsincere wrote:You're better off with "quiet" CDs as opposed to CDs with the dynamic range squashed by compression.

Modern mastering techniques leave a lot to be desired.

I'm a fan of the original recordings, in general terms of course. Sometimes the mistakes or whatever have you from earlier recordings are a reflection of the times. Not all rock music needs to be flawless; in fact I prefer a little fuzz/hiss because it speaks of the rawness and a bit of integrity of the project.

RemarkablyInsincere · Post by **RemarkablyInsincere** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:02 pm

Yep, when they go so far as to "NoNOISE" every last ounce of tape hiss out, they really get rid of the "air" in the recording and things become really sterile and artificial sounding.

A little tape hiss never killed anybody.

daytripper63 · Post by **daytripper63** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:12 pm

True....and "Don't Blow Your Mind" just wouldn't be the same without the fuzz.
I love the old defective recordings.

Malchik · Post by **Malchik** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:26 pm

Tape hiss and pops are no excuse. It shows an incompetent transfer on the technician’s part or evidence of deterioration of the master. And I'd hope it's the earlier. Unless shoddy hands were used in the production of the original recording.

RemarkablyInsincere · Post by **RemarkablyInsincere** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:25 pm

You can't remove all tape hiss without affecting the actual music on some level.

rpchurch · Post by **rpchurch** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:16 am

I've had Easy Action for awhile, and got Lace and Whiskey shortly thereafter. And, I picked up Flush the Fashion and From the Inside today. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have there on CD (I live in the U.S. and they've been unavailable domestically for awhile), but I think they could have done a little better job on the packaging. It isn't that it is awful, just kind of sloppy by the high standards we usually get from Rhino. At a bare minimum, I think they should have recreated the front and back foldouts for From the Inside. It just isn't the same without the cool back doors!

FYI - I'd sent Rhino a not, sometime ago, asking if this was going to be a continued trend, to get the rest of the old solo stuff back out there. They said they didn't have plans to, specifically with respect to DADA and Special Forces. I was kind of bummed about that. It sure would have been nice to have had DADA to listen to through the Halloween season! Here's hoping they change their plans.

WickedYoungMan · Post by **WickedYoungMan** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:39 am

rpchurch wrote:I've had Easy Action for awhile, and got Lace and Whiskey shortly thereafter. And, I picked up Flush the Fashion and From the Inside today. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled to have there on CD (I live in the U.S. and they've been unavailable domestically for awhile), but I think they could have done a little better job on the packaging. It isn't that it is awful, just kind of sloppy by the high standards we usually get from Rhino. At a bare minimum, I think they should have recreated the front and back foldouts for From the Inside. It just isn't the same without the cool back doors!

Not saying it's a bad idea, but considering this is a relatively quiet back archive release it probably wasn't that important of a detail. Maybe a different story if this was a bigger scale project.

Si · Post by Si » Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:13 am

They are meant to be simple reissues at a low price to get them available in the USA again. Hence no remastering etc.

rpchurch · Post by **rpchurch** » Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:23 pm

Si wrote:They are meant to be simple reissues at a low price to get them available in the USA again. Hence no remastering etc.

Yeah, and I'm grateful that they're back out there. I'm just imagining how cool an actual reproduction of the LP in CD format would have been. Seems like that would have been a great project for Rhino Handmade. But, Rhino did not disappoint with the box set, so I can't complain. Sure hope they change their mind about DADA, though. I really think that would be one brand new listeners could get a lot out of. Definitely one of my top 5 solo Coop records.

Si · Post by Si » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:45 am

There are three mini-LP style Cd's that keep turning up on Ebay at the moment. Killer, FTI and Greatest Hits. Not sure they are official though. Coming from Russia they could be in a kinda grey area due to lax copyright laws over there. They look cool on the pics but I haven't seen one in the flesh. Very tempting though.

Malchik · Post by **Malchik** » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:09 am

I don't know how they can release Flush and not SF They really are two sister albums and justifying one to the other is odd. Is this requested from Alice? I'm surprised he just didn't leave the “drunkard four” albums out all together. I guess he did mention he really likes Zipper and still supports the song Model Citizen.

Its isn’t too big of a deal for me since the German CD’s have become commonly found here but at a rather hefty price. Besides the German L&W issue had a much better version of Road Rats.

Why is that anyway?

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