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Pure Glen Buxton

Post by Dannorama » Wed May 05, 2021 1:37 pm

Help me zero in on Glen. Since I've come to understand how every producer likes to use hired guns, I have grown skeptical about exactly who's performance I am listening to. For instance, I cannot find info in Glen's recorded solos. It makes me realize that I can't distinguish between players in other songs. For instance, I assume that's Glen opening Halo of Flies, but I'm not sure about the rest of the song. Please let me know what you understand, and please give examples of what "Pure Glen" means to you. For me, Pure Glen begins with School's Out. His opening riff has become a standard in classic rock. BUT! That's where the questions begin. Is that him playing the solo (1:29)? Or is it Rick Derringer? Is Glen always mixed to the left in other songs? I'm suddenly very curious about Glen directly, and I can't find much info.
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Post by Ted Sallis » Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm

I think it could be both Glen and Michael Bruce playing the opening to Halo of Flies. Michael stated in his book that he himself played the wah-wah in the same song. GB played the guitar solo in Ballad of Dwight Fry and the guitar during the long jazz instrumental break in Blue Turk but he apparently didn't play at all on the MOL album and I'm not sure if he played anything on the BBB album. Glen's playing is quite abundant on the 1st 2 ACG albums but I can't acertain everything that was played by him on those releases. Listen for his echoplex on the Live at The Whisky A-Go-Go 1969 release.

I trust others will post here to fill in some more gaps.

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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by Dannorama » Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm

Ted Sallis wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm
I think it could be both Glen and Michael Bruce playing the opening to Halo of Flies. Michael stated in his book that he himself played the wah-wah in the same song. GB played the guitar solo in Ballad of Dwight Fry and the guitar during the long jazz instrumental break in Blue Turk but he apparently didn't play at all on the MOL album and I'm not sure if he played anything on the BBB album. Glen's playing is quite abundant on the 1st 2 ACG albums but I can't acertain everything that was played by him on those releases. Listen for his echoplex on the Live at The Whisky A-Go-Go 1969 release.

I trust others will post here to fill in some more gaps.

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Thanks, Ted. Good points, and I just got Whiskey a Go-Go on iTunes. I've never had a desire for that album until now.
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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by mr.barlow » Wed May 05, 2021 2:59 pm

I'm pretty certain it was all GB on the first two albums and Love It To Death. I think it's with Killer when Ezrin started using outside players.

DD recently commented on a thread in his section of the forum that GB "was all over" School's Out. It is known it is Wagner playing the great leads on My Stars.

GB does not play on either B$B or MOL but was given credit as being on them.

Somewhere on this forum Steve Hunter gave an accurate description of who played what on B$B.

I've been advocating on here for a while that when those albums are re-released that the musicians who actually played on the albums are given their due credit.

For years most fans had no idea they were not hearing GB playing but rather musicians who made those songs what they are without ever receiving proper recognition.

It could have been a contractual thing at the time to keep it a secret but I think it's time those guys are given their recognition.

B$B is one of the biggest rock albums of that era and there are guys who actually played the music that never publicly got recognized for it.

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Post by pitkin88 » Wed May 05, 2021 5:12 pm

You might want to ask Dennis Dunaway that would be a good place to start. You can also look at some of the Beat Club footage which you can clearly see what Mike and Glen are playing.

Derringer plays in two songs only which you can find out about rather easily on this forum.

I also believe Chris Sutton breaks down who plays what in his book though I haven't read it.

It looks like Glen last played guitar on the Schools Out album.

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Post by revinkevin » Wed May 05, 2021 6:46 pm

Glen seems to be our Syd Barret or Peter Green. A enormous talent but became increasingly erratic or absent for whatever reasons. Not only MIA on the BBB album, but don’t forget that tour had a third guitarist and I don’t think he was exactly center stage.

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Post by Daggers & Contracts » Thu May 06, 2021 12:21 am

Calm down Cold Room - just state the facts as you know them please! :ghostface:
Glen was & will always be an important member of the ACG! :clap:
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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by Rod » Thu May 06, 2021 10:34 am

It seems to me that the School's Out album is a very good place to start. I remember once corresponding with Neal Smith and he said something to the effect that SO is one of his favourite records because it is "Glenn's album".

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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by pitkin88 » Fri May 07, 2021 5:37 pm

I looked at a review of the Sutton book and it appear he does say who played what and where the guitarist comes in. Ie Glen at 1.24 and Mike at 1.50.

Oddly enough the reviewer saw this as a negative.

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Post by Gilles27 » Mon May 10, 2021 9:31 am

pitkin88 wrote:
Fri May 07, 2021 5:37 pm
I looked at a review of the Sutton book and it appear he does say who played what and where the guitarist comes in. Ie Glen at 1.24 and Mike at 1.50.

Oddly enough the reviewer saw this as a negative.
I have the book and can confirm that most of the songs are broken down and Chris identifies who is playing. I really enjoyed the book and it helped me to get into PFY and EA - 2 albums I very rarely played.
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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by steven_crayn » Thu May 13, 2021 11:19 pm

mr.barlow wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:59 pm
Somewhere on this forum Steve Hunter gave an accurate description of who played what on B$B.
That was when i asked Steve Hunter who confirmed to me when I asked him (if you play or know his style it isn't too difficult to tell) the solos he played on the B$B album which were; the pedal steel on Hello Hooray, Raped and Freezin (second 8 bar Solo), Billion Dollar Babies (second 4 bar solo of middle solo and all the outro solo), the slide solo on Unfinished Sweet, and the solos on Generation Landslide & Sick Things. Bob Ezrin did talk about Steve's solo on Generation Landslide as being one of his best.
Dick Wagner played the solo on ‘I Love the Dead’.
Mick Mashbir played the lead on 'No More Mister Nice Guy'.
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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by steven_crayn » Thu May 13, 2021 11:24 pm

Ted Sallis wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm
I think it could be both Glen and Michael Bruce playing the opening to Halo of Flies.
The origins of the ‘Halo of Flies’ opening riff was in existence as early as the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival on September 13th 1969. If you watch this footage at 5 mins 55 seconds in, you will see and hear Michael Bruce play what was to become ‘Halo of Flies’.
https://youtu.be/IDFFzZRIcQI
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Re: Pure Glen Buxton

Post by Ted Sallis » Fri May 14, 2021 4:38 pm

steven_crayn wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 11:24 pm
Ted Sallis wrote:
Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm
I think it could be both Glen and Michael Bruce playing the opening to Halo of Flies.
The origins of the ‘Halo of Flies’ opening riff was in existence as early as the Toronto Rock and Roll Revival on September 13th 1969. If you watch this footage at 5 mins 55 seconds in, you will see and hear Michael Bruce play what was to become ‘Halo of Flies’.
https://youtu.be/IDFFzZRIcQI
Yes, no question about it, that's the HOF riff in that footage; if there are 2 guitars playing the opening of the song on the Killer album, it could be that MB overdubbed the 2nd guitar part.

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