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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by Robbie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:45 pm

I understand fully what Andy means in terms of the information in the fanzine. In my original post I tried to give a flavour of the context. We have become so used to a wealth of information via the internet but back then it was unique to have so much on Alice in print.

Part of the context of the time for me was I used to be infuriated when the NME or Sounds would devote acres of column inches about some now long forgotten album by some equally forgettable band as if they were the saviours of rock n roll while dismissing "Flush the Fashion" or "Special Forces" in a couple of tawdry lines.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:04 pm

>I could only afford to buy one.

Same here (if that).

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:06 pm

>Part of the context of the time for me was I used to be infuriated when the NME or Sounds

Neither of those exist any more (the former does but in a different form), so we can easily tell who has the longevity.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by WickedYoungMan » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:21 pm

A_MichaelUK wrote:>If Andy gives his permission, I can put it back up for people to see.

Let me think about it. The thing is, a lot of the information in them is now easy to find elsewhere and also (and not that I'm comparing the fanzine with these) but since then, you've had "Prime Cuts", the incredible essay written by Jeffrey Morgan for the box - set, as well as "Golf Monster".

> and, to be honest, the original pics in the photocopied mags left something to be desired.

Exactly (if you mean the quality of the reproduction). There may be some here who may find this difficult to understand, but once, a long time ago, there were no such things as computers, word - processing, digital images, scanning and all the other things we now all take for granted.
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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by Railwayman » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:22 pm

Andy,

I think I bought the first few, 3 or 4 I think and really enjoyed them. Was it you who had an issue with your local photocopier/printer shop who refused to print them at one stage?

How many did you do in the end, I remember looking forward to the 'next' one but then didn't see anymore.

Great job, thanks for your efforts

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Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:25 pm

A_MichaelUK wrote: Let me think about it. The thing is, a lot of the information in them is now easy to find elsewhere and also (and not that I'm comparing the fanzine with these) but since then, you've had "Prime Cuts", the incredible essay written by Jeffrey Morgan for the box - set, as well as "Golf Monster".
I'm more interested in reading them just to get a sense of what they were like... I kinda figured all the info that was available at that time has been regurgitated elsewhere in the ensuing years.

On another note, don't you think in a way these are a part of AC history and should be preserved in some fashion? I can't think of a better place to do so than here... with your blessings of course.
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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by mattcoddington » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:41 pm

WickedYoungMan wrote: Yep. In fact, some of the earliest fanzines were done on stone tablets.
andy did those too.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:42 pm

>I think I bought the first few, 3 or 4 I think and really enjoyed them.

That's very humbling and I'm never humble.

>Was it you who had an issue with your local photocopier/printer shop who refused to print them at one stage?

Yes - you have a great memory. Shep Gordon loved that story.

>How many did you do in the end, I remember looking forward to the 'next' one but then didn't see anymore.

I think there were ten, but I'm not sure.

>Great job, thanks for your efforts

You're much too generous.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by WickedYoungMan » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:47 pm

Did Brian ever include the fanzines in the Alice Cooper Archives?
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Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:00 pm

On another note, don't you think in a way these are a part of AC history and should be preserved in some fashion?

No, I don't! That's very flattering, though? Are you after something?

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Post by mattcoddington » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:01 pm

not sure what you mean by 'include.' but, the archives where just a massive collection of alice cooper.... junk in storage rooms. i'm sure brian threw everything alice related in there, including fan made stuff.

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:02 pm

>Did Brian ever include the fanzines in the Alice Cooper Archives?

Hopefully, not.

For those interested in trivia, one copy that I sent which was given to Alice ended up with Alice's father, who gave it to Brian - and over twenty - five years later, here we are.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by recoop » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:18 pm

I wish I had read these fanzines..as a sidenote Alice coverage was terrible in the early 80s..I lived in Norwich in early 80s and there was a time when HMV did not even have a titled area for Alice albums..I know its hard to believe..but no Alice in Norwich! Well done for keeping the flame alive Andy.
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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by mattcoddington » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:19 pm

a guy named kenny mik also did fanzines in the late 90s/early 00s.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:27 pm

>as a sidenote Alice coverage was terrible in the early 80s..

Yes - that's what Robbie said.

> HMV did not even have a titled area for Alice albums..

In those days, Alice wasn't a priority for Warner Brothers, as we know.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:33 pm

>a guy named kenny mik also did fanzines in the late 90s/early 00s.

Yes. The first one was in 1996, I think. In fact, there was a fanzine in The Netherlands (I think) which started just before mine as well as one in The Netherlands that started afterwards and there was one from Sweden as well. I vaguely remember there being one from Japan, but I'm not sure. There was a 'one - off' fanzine from Los Angeles, in 1989 as well.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:34 pm

A_MichaelUK wrote:No, I don't! That's very flattering, though? Are you after something?
Not presently. But does flattery work?
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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by Robbie » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:28 pm

"Recoop" was spot on for congratulating Andy for keeeping the "flame alive". I don't know Andy but he is clearly a very modest guy and the fact that we are discussin the fanzine now- twenty five years later- says something.

I agree with others on this thread who suggest these deserve to be archived. They are part of the story of Alice Cooper in terms of Alice's career and the fan's perception and loyalty to him during this period- which incidentally, and I know I am not alone in believing this, produced some truly memorable, interesting and unique Alice songs.

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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:39 pm

Robbie wrote:I agree with others on this thread who suggest these deserve to be archived. They are part of the story of Alice Cooper in terms of Alice's career and the fan's perception and loyalty to him during this period- which incidentally, and I know I am not alone in believing this, produced some truly memorable, interesting and unique Alice songs.
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Re: "Alice Cooper's Anonymous" early 80's fanzine

Post by Shoesalesman » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:00 am

A_MichaelUK wrote:The thing is, a lot of the information in them is now easy to find elsewhere and also (and not that I'm comparing the fanzine with these) but since then, you've had "Prime Cuts", the incredible essay written by Jeffrey Morgan for the box - set, as well as "Golf Monster".
Other members have raised an interest in seeing these fanzines over the years (not just this thread alone) and it sure would be something to see it from an early 80s point of view, having no idea of what still was in store for Alice and the fans.
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