Alice Cooper in the 70’s Book
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Alice Cooper in the 70’s Book
Hi Dennis I’ve just started reading this book and whilst I’m enjoying it there’s a couple of things in the section about Killer which I think either I or the author might have gotten wrong. The book states that the Strings on Halo of Flies, Be My Lover and the brass on Dead Babies was Bob Ezrin on the Minimoog synth. I have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
It’s always fascinating to learn something new about the band especially as I never got the chance to experience you guys while you were together (you’d split years before I was born).
It’s always fascinating to learn something new about the band especially as I never got the chance to experience you guys while you were together (you’d split years before I was born).
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The strings and the horns are real. Bob played Minimoog on "Halo of Flies."Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amHi Dennis I’ve just started reading this book and whilst I’m enjoying it there’s a couple of things in the section about Killer which I think either I or the author might have gotten wrong. The book states that the Strings on Halo of Flies, Be My Lover and the brass on Dead Babies was Bob Ezrin on the Minimoog synth. I have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
It’s always fascinating to learn something new about the band especially as I never got the chance to experience you guys while you were together (you’d split years before I was born).
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Was the Minimoog the one note that kept reverberating ?Dreary wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:20 pmThe strings and the horns are real. Bob played Minimoog on "Halo of Flies."Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amHi Dennis I’ve just started reading this book and whilst I’m enjoying it there’s a couple of things in the section about Killer which I think either I or the author might have gotten wrong. The book states that the Strings on Halo of Flies, Be My Lover and the brass on Dead Babies was Bob Ezrin on the Minimoog synth. I have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
It’s always fascinating to learn something new about the band especially as I never got the chance to experience you guys while you were together (you’d split years before I was born).
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Yes, during the intro.Daggers & Contracts wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:45 pmWas the Minimoog the one note that kept reverberating ?Dreary wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:20 pmThe strings and the horns are real. Bob played Minimoog on "Halo of Flies."Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amHi Dennis I’ve just started reading this book and whilst I’m enjoying it there’s a couple of things in the section about Killer which I think either I or the author might have gotten wrong. The book states that the Strings on Halo of Flies, Be My Lover and the brass on Dead Babies was Bob Ezrin on the Minimoog synth. I have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
It’s always fascinating to learn something new about the band especially as I never got the chance to experience you guys while you were together (you’d split years before I was born).
Thanks, Dr. D
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Dennis Dunaway on the minimoog on ‘Halo of Flies’, “We were working in the studio when the MiniMoog arrived in a box. Bob Ezrin opened it and I saw all the dials and thought, we don't have time to figure this out. Bob plugged it in and started messing around and found the sounds pretty fast. We also used it on the very end of Killer.”Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amI have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
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Hmm, I have to agree with myself. Thanks, Steven.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:33 pmDennis Dunaway on the minimoog on ‘Halo of Flies’, “We were working in the studio when the MiniMoog arrived in a box. Bob Ezrin opened it and I saw all the dials and thought, we don't have time to figure this out. Bob plugged it in and started messing around and found the sounds pretty fast. We also used it on the very end of Killer.”Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amI have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
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Dreary wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:29 pmHmm, I have to agree with myself. Thanks, Steven.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:33 pmDennis Dunaway on the minimoog on ‘Halo of Flies’, “We were working in the studio when the MiniMoog arrived in a box. Bob Ezrin opened it and I saw all the dials and thought, we don't have time to figure this out. Bob plugged it in and started messing around and found the sounds pretty fast. We also used it on the very end of Killer.”Babysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amI have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
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Am I right in thinking that the choral sound that happens at about 5:11 is a Melotron?
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It's hard to remember everything from 50 years ago, especially since those sessions were a race to the finish. I think there was a Melotron in that studio, but I tend to think that the Minimoog was already set up so Bob used that rather than move everything over to the Melotron just for that section. Plus Melotron wasn't listed in Bob's playing credits.While Heaven Wept wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:35 pmAm I right in thinking that the choral sound that happens at about 5:11 is a Melotron?
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Thank you Stevensteven_crayn wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:33 pmBabysquid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:02 amI have a Minimoog myself and I’ve always assumed that these parts were real strings and brass because that’s what they sound like. I’ve certainly never been able to create such realistic imitations of real instruments on the mini. Also Bob is credited with String and Brass arrangements on the Lp as well as Minimoog.
Dennis Dunaway on the minimoog on ‘Halo of Flies’, “We were working in the studio when the MiniMoog arrived in a box. Bob Ezrin opened it and I saw all the dials and thought, we don't have time to figure this out. Bob plugged it in and started messing around and found the sounds pretty fast. We also used it on the very end of Killer.”
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Is that the strings? I think that’s real strings, I actually have a real Mellotron as well and I used to think it might be before but I’m pretty sure it’s not. I’m trying to think of a word to describe how the mellotron sounds compared to real instruments and the only thing that comes to mind is “platey” which is probably nonsense to anyone but me! There were different string sounds available for the M400 mellotron but this sounds more real to me.While Heaven Wept wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:35 pmAm I right in thinking that the choral sound that happens at about 5:11 is a Melotron?
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Hello Hooray is a good example a hired-in M400 was used.Babysquid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:30 pmIs that the strings? I think that’s real strings, I actually have a real Mellotron as well and I used to think it might be before but I’m pretty sure it’s not. I’m trying to think of a word to describe how the mellotron sounds compared to real instruments and the only thing that comes to mind is “platey” which is probably nonsense to anyone but me! There were different string sounds available for the M400 mellotron but this sounds more real to me.While Heaven Wept wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:35 pmAm I right in thinking that the choral sound that happens at about 5:11 is a Melotron?
I love the sound of a Mellotron they have a unique sound sort of a poor mans strings but with a charm about it.
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As you guys know, the Mellotron used tape recordings of strings playing each note. The tapes weren't in loops and so each note only lasted about 8 seconds. When the tape came to it's end, the note stopped abruptly. The Moody Blues Days of Future Past album is a great example of Mellotron use with notes extending as long as they could without running out of tape.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:46 amHello Hooray is a good example a hired-in M400 was used.Babysquid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:30 pmIs that the strings? I think that’s real strings, I actually have a real Mellotron as well and I used to think it might be before but I’m pretty sure it’s not. I’m trying to think of a word to describe how the mellotron sounds compared to real instruments and the only thing that comes to mind is “platey” which is probably nonsense to anyone but me! There were different string sounds available for the M400 mellotron but this sounds more real to me.While Heaven Wept wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:35 pmAm I right in thinking that the choral sound that happens at about 5:11 is a Melotron?
I love the sound of a Mellotron they have a unique sound sort of a poor mans strings but with a charm about it.
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I love the Moody Blues.Dreary wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:19 pmAs you guys know, the Mellotron used tape recordings of strings playing each note. The tapes weren't in loops and so each note only lasted about 8 seconds. When the tape came to it's end, the note stopped abruptly. The Moody Blues Days of Future Past album is a great example of Mellotron use with notes extending as long as they could without running out of tape.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:46 amHello Hooray is a good example a hired-in M400 was used.Babysquid wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:30 pm
Is that the strings? I think that’s real strings, I actually have a real Mellotron as well and I used to think it might be before but I’m pretty sure it’s not. I’m trying to think of a word to describe how the mellotron sounds compared to real instruments and the only thing that comes to mind is “platey” which is probably nonsense to anyone but me! There were different string sounds available for the M400 mellotron but this sounds more real to me.
I love the sound of a Mellotron they have a unique sound sort of a poor mans strings but with a charm about it.
I really liked how Genesis used the Mellotron on Watcher of the Skies. Tony Banks apparently used the knob half way between strings and brass to get both sounds on the right hand and bass accordion on the left hand. Foxtrot what an album that and Selling England by the Pound are masterpieces.
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Mellotron is the perfect name for the instrument because of the sound it produces.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:15 amI love the Moody Blues.Dreary wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:19 pmAs you guys know, the Mellotron used tape recordings of strings playing each note. The tapes weren't in loops and so each note only lasted about 8 seconds. When the tape came to it's end, the note stopped abruptly. The Moody Blues Days of Future Past album is a great example of Mellotron use with notes extending as long as they could without running out of tape.steven_crayn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:46 am
Hello Hooray is a good example a hired-in M400 was used.
I love the sound of a Mellotron they have a unique sound sort of a poor mans strings but with a charm about it.
I really liked how Genesis used the Mellotron on Watcher of the Skies. Tony Banks apparently used the knob half way between strings and brass to get both sounds on the right hand and bass accordion on the left hand. Foxtrot what an album that and Selling England by the Pound are masterpieces.
https://youtu.be/2agWXrNJGjg