Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

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Re: Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:15 am

While Heaven Wept wrote:As for my comment about the human ear being 'conditioned' to it.... again, not a personal preference but a fact (as you seem to have confirmed in your last line).


Just because you say it, doesn't make it a "fact".
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Re: Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

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Re: Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:24 pm

Si wrote: It was a "Square Wave" whatever that is. A Vocorder is the guitar/vocal thing that Joe Perry uses on 'Sweet Emotion' (as one example).
There might be different means to the same end, however, another one of my favorite artists used a similar effect on a song only a year before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LfUXKQwcY

Since I'm tight with the band/producer, I asked the what effect was used and was told:

"It is an AutoTune. We never used it other than that but most modern music uses it all the time dialed back to make singers sing in tune. If u crank up the effect it gets that machine sound, e.g. That Cher song from years ago."
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Re: Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:30 pm

From the AutoTune wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune):

The earliest commercial use of Auto-Tune as a vocal effect in a popular song was Roy Vedas' Fragments Of Life in August 17th 1998 and later in Cher's "Believe" and Eiffel 65's "Blue (Da Ba Dee)".[11] The effect is not to be confused with a vocoder or the talk box,[12] devices referenced by producers of these songs when they were new to hide their use of Auto-Tune from music audiences. For example, in an early interview, the producers of "Believe" claimed they had used a DigiTech Talker FX pedal, in what Sound on Sound’s editors felt was an attempt to preserve a trade secret.[13] After the success of "Believe" the technique became known as the "Cher Effect".[14][15] Originally, Auto-Tune was designed to discreetly correct imprecise intonations, but Cher's producers used it to "exaggerate the artificiality of abrupt pitch correction." This technique soon became a widespread technique used in live performances and in pop recordings throughout the first ten years of the 21st century.[16]
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Re: Bob Ezrin-Past, Present And Future

Post by pitkin88 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:41 pm

That effect on Believe could be used in place of water boarding.

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