Alice and the Internet
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Alice and the Internet
Imagine no internet in regards to the careers of classic artists like Alice. How many of us would know what he's up to in this day and age. No cool magazines like Circus or Creem to keep us up-to-date. Rolling Stone is too occupied with politics and sports to feature him on a regular basis. Point is, how would these classic artists stay relevant or at least sell tickets without the Internet? Would they be like the 1950's rockers who languished in the 1960's because of the changing times? Would love to hear your opinions...
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If there was no internet people would still be buying records and magazines.
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Probably true. We found out about stuff through magazines and word of mouth back then so would probably still do it. There's fewer music magazines BECAUSE of the internet. Without it there would be more.pitkin88 wrote:If there was no internet people would still be buying records and magazines.
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It would be like the 1970s again.
I'm up for that
I'm up for that
My obsession:
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http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/Ste7en
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"Point is, how would these classic artists stay relevant or at least sell tickets without the Internet?"
they'd probably retain their mystique and be arguably more popular. people would possibly rush to get the tickets simply because that's the only time you'd get to see them.
they'd probably retain their mystique and be arguably more popular. people would possibly rush to get the tickets simply because that's the only time you'd get to see them.
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been around for a while now and I am glad internet exists. In fact , the first time someone showed me the possibilities of the internet( mind you, animals could still speak then !) I asked him to show me what was avaiable on ... Alice ( to his surprise, I might add
As the interest for Alice vanished through the years, it was harder to find info even in so called specialised magazines. So if Alice organised some shows here and there, we probably even wouldn't have known it. Dvd hardly existed and one of the first times I saw Alice in an interview was around the constrictor tour..and I ve been a fan since BDB !
So I think without the internet ( millions of people approachable within seconds) , Artists would only be relevant to their own fanbase more or less.
As the interest for Alice vanished through the years, it was harder to find info even in so called specialised magazines. So if Alice organised some shows here and there, we probably even wouldn't have known it. Dvd hardly existed and one of the first times I saw Alice in an interview was around the constrictor tour..and I ve been a fan since BDB !
So I think without the internet ( millions of people approachable within seconds) , Artists would only be relevant to their own fanbase more or less.
you really wouldn't understand..
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The internet is a double edged sword, no doubt. On one hand, we know that downloading and streaming have impacted income streams for many artists. On the other hand, I think that Social Media has also helped artists like Alice, who was getting very little support from record labels in the early 2000s, reach out to an audience who may not have been aware he was still putting out albums or what he was up to. "Along Came A Spider" came around the height of MySpace. Granted, that particular label seemed to put more effort into advertising, however, MySpace was utilized brilliantly and was virtually free promotion to all of the "friends" on the official MySpace page. ACAS ended up selling more records. Sure, it didn't break sales records, but would it have sold as much without the help of social media? Same with W2MN? Would W2MN have sold as much as it did without the help of the internet and the promotion from venues like Facebook?
Just my two cents though.
Just my two cents though.
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I started collecting Alice just after Trash. No internet then! I'd buy anything with even the smallest bit of Alice info. Before Hey Stoopid and Prime Cuts in 1991 I'd got all the albums, a couple of bootlegs ( so I was aware of "my very own" and "slick Black Limosine"), I knew about the ACG and that they had become Billion Dollar Babies (although I didn't hear the album for many years) , I knew most of the albums uk highest chart positions, I'd got hold of a copy of the elected promo, and a schools out promo and I knew the basic outline of the story.Devon wrote:The internet is a double edged sword, no doubt. On one hand, we know that downloading and streaming have impacted income streams for many artists. On the other hand, I think that Social Media has also helped artists like Alice, who was getting very little support from record labels in the early 2000s, reach out to an audience who may not have been aware he was still putting out albums or what he was up to. "Along Came A Spider" came around the height of MySpace. Granted, that particular label seemed to put more effort into advertising, however, MySpace was utilized brilliantly and was virtually free promotion to all of the "friends" on the official MySpace page. ACAS ended up selling more records. Sure, it didn't break sales records, but would it have sold as much without the help of social media? Same with W2MN? Would W2MN have sold as much as it did without the help of the internet and the promotion from venues like Facebook?
Just my two cents though.
So there was information out there but you had to be committed and there were no readily available books on Alice or the band at the time.
There was a guy who used to sell stuff out the back of record collector magazine and I used to ring him up and he'd send me these photocopied catalogues full of stuff I could never afford at the time. The catalogs just ended up part of my collection of Alice Stuff.
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No idea why I quoted Devon there!
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Ah, the good old days of decent rock magazines and a thing called 'patience'. While it is possible to avoid spoilers and such on the internet when it comes to a new album, it's a pain in the softest part of the arse to avoid them. Don't get me started on the new Star Wars movie. There's no Art of Surprise with anything anymore thanks to the internet. I remember how cool it was to be surprised.
The only surprise I get these days is if my stool is a different color.
The only surprise I get these days is if my stool is a different color.
If I may put forward a slice of personal colostomy...
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Im sure the people at waves and national record mart are vary happy internet came about. I was a die hard genesis fan in my teens. And almost weekly id go in with pen an paper to write down waht cds they have and the track listing and nag them to find out about this that and the other that i had herd about lol. Remember the days of having to special order a cd or vhs lol. Im sorry we dont have that here but we can get it. Wait days for them to track it down and then mail it to the store for me to pick it up. Amazon has been a blessing in a way.
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Ain't the internet that has eroded my interest in Alice