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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by AliceFan » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:21 pm

Si, I do understand that but What I'm mostly talking about and would love is a setlist over haul . But I know that the setlist of course is up to him right? But I know he Alice saying about changing the setlist up for the UK shows start in October in the nme interview he recently did. But he also said were retired the show we did for 2 and half years now n bringing you a new stage show, that sounds quite promising. But you're not saying that I wouldn't happen? Cause it definitely could at least in the uk.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by Si » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:26 pm

AliceFan wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:21 pm
Si, I do understand that but What I'm mostly talking about and would love is a setlist over haul . But I know that the setlist of course is up to him right? But I know he Alice saying about changing the setlist up for the UK shows start in October in the nme interview he recently did. But he also said were retired the show we did for 2 and half years now n bringing you a new stage show, that sounds quite promising. But you're not saying that I wouldn't happen? Cause it definitely could at least in the uk.
No, I'm not saying it won't happen. Of course it could.
I'm just saying that he has said these things before and nothing has come of it, so I suggest we all just wait and see. Then it would be a nice surpise.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by AliceFan » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:39 pm

Si, just one more question, the setlist each tour is determined by Alice right? ? Like changes or additions to it?also is this ol'blackeyesisback tour just for the UK shows or for Mexico and US shows as well?

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by Si » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:21 pm

AliceFan wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:39 pm
Si, just one more question, the setlist each tour is determined by Alice right??
Generally, although others have an input as well, and from what little I have seen personally I believe Shep and Bob both have a big say in what gets played and what doesn't.
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also is this ol'blackeyesisback tour just for the UK shows or for Mexico and US shows as well?
I presume it will be the tag line used for the whole year, and possibly into next year. The other European shows are using it, not just the UK. Mexico is a festival.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by del » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:44 pm

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Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:57 pm
Sorry for me disagree with you again but Alice has been hinting and saying in interviews since last year about a whole new stage show and working with Shep Gordon on it going over ideas with him.And said dip into albums that fans wouldn't expect us ton play stuff from. Why would he said that just for the sake of it? Cause you're basically calling Alice a liar. An the last time he changed stage show was "Theater of death " tour in 2007 which had lots of new stuff. An I have seen Alice 6 times now and in need of a setlist change and new show. It will happen but you and I will not be dis cussing this topic any further. Got it!

I'm not calling him a liar. I'm reading the quote and nowhere does it say a completely new show with lots of new songs. He can certainly exaggerate and we have plenty of evidence of that over the years but if these are the best quotes we have for the next tour then it's absolutely wrong to think it means more than it does.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by AliceFan » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:02 pm

Alice clearly says in the article "we dip into a bunch of albums that people wouldn't expect us to play stuff from " that tells you right there a bunch of albums. .. so a bunch of suprises are in store right? And he said a total Alice extravaganza. An you said Alice doesn't indicate anything about a new stage show yes he does he says , " it's going to have all the elements that you would expect and new stuff (as in new theatrics ) .

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by padre_sliprat » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:56 am

I noticed on the bottom corner of the OBE is B poster that it's advertising the Paranormal album. This leads me to believe there's not a new record in the immediate pipeline. Just a thought.
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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by del » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:40 am

AliceFan wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:02 pm
Alice clearly says in the article "we dip into a bunch of albums that people wouldn't expect us to play stuff from " that tells you right there a bunch of albums. .. so a bunch of suprises are in store right? And he said a total Alice extravaganza. An you said Alice doesn't indicate anything about a new stage show yes he does he says , " it's going to have all the elements that you would expect and new stuff (as in new theatrics ) .
This is all about interpretation of what Alice says. Some of us have a very enthusiastic and positive interpretation of what is said and some of us have a more negative and, based on history, a more realistic interpretation.

Yes it's a bunch of surprises and a bunch could be as little as four or five. It's certainly not "a load" or "lots" and If I'm right then we could be getting more or less exactly the number of surprises we have had for several tours now.

Same issue applies to the show and the props. All the elements you would expect means he will have a lot of what is always there therefore only leaving space for some new stuff.

The tour name is already different and the curtain will no doubt be different as well. If he adds props for the bunch of surprise songs (that could be the new stuff he s talking about) mixes the order of the other songs, gives different slots for drum and guitar solos, continues with the idea of changing the backing curtains through the set and has a different way of name checking the band at the end then most of us wouldn't see a radical change but he could certainly be right to call it a brand new stage show.

If I was a betting man I'd go for this. Let's wait and see though.

Remember I'm not calling him a liar just saying that's it's easy to read too much in to what he says.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by del » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:42 am

padre_sliprat wrote:
Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:56 am
I noticed on the bottom corner of the OBE is B poster that it's advertising the Paranormal album. This leads me to believe there's not a new record in the immediate pipeline. Just a thought.
Mine too..

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by VinceLeeRose » Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:39 pm

If they use that cheesy FrankenAlice prop again for the 9th year straight I'm going to be extremely disappointed.

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Post by rgallie » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:01 am

AliceFan wrote:
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:57 pm
It will happen but you and I will not be dis cussing this topic any further. Got it!
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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by padre_sliprat » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:33 am

VinceLeeRose wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:39 pm
If they use that cheesy FrankenAlice prop again for the 9th year straight I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
If it would only become possessed and go on a killing spree...
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Post by VinceRaven » Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:36 am

VinceLeeRose wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:39 pm
If they use that cheesy FrankenAlice prop again for the 9th year straight I'm going to be extremely disappointed.
The fact that some of the VIP packages include getting photographed with that prop would indicate that it's still around. And will be forever.

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Post by AlongCameASpider27 » Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:07 pm

Alice cooper and Halestorm tour...tickets go onsale this week..its very vague is this the ol black eyes tour and for America???

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Post by HORRORHOLIC » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:09 pm

I'm shocked the Alice/Halestorm tour with Motionless In White doesn't even have a single Canadian date. North American Tour but no Canada at all ?
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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by Si » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 pm

HORRORHOLIC wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:09 pm
I'm shocked the Alice/Halestorm tour with Motionless In White doesn't even have a single Canadian date. North American Tour but no Canada at all ?
There's still gaps in the schedule. I have no inside info but you never know what will be added.
It's not like Alice to skip Canada.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by Si » Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm

Si wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 pm
HORRORHOLIC wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:09 pm
I'm shocked the Alice/Halestorm tour with Motionless In White doesn't even have a single Canadian date. North American Tour but no Canada at all ?
There's still gaps in the schedule. I have no inside info but you never know what will be added.
It's not like Alice to skip Canada.

EDIT: And don`t forget he is in Edenvale, ONT just before these dates.

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by padre_sliprat » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:22 pm

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Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:20 pm
"Rock’n Roll Hall of Famer Cooper will bring an all-new show for the Summer 2019 tour. Dubbed "Ol' Black Eyes Is Back," the show will have a very different look than recent tours. New music from Alice is expected in time for the tour, once again produced by Alice’s longtime collaborator Bob Ezrin."

No silly splatter logo. Alice co-headlining with what appears to be an up and coming band. An opening act. New music expected. Very different look. Nice rockin' Coop logo. This may be the freshest thing since BP. There was also that mention of dipping into underplayed material. I may have to eat 18 years of my words if this pans out...and I hope it does. It doesnt have the feel of the oldies act/greatest hits of yesteryear we've come to expect. I'm excited about a tour like I haven't been in nearly two decades.
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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by patrick » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:30 pm

:alice: padre ?
did I miss something ???
or just wishfullthinking ? :8):
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: ‘Ol black eyes is back Tour

Post by HORRORHOLIC » Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:37 pm

Si wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:48 pm
Si wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:43 pm
HORRORHOLIC wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:09 pm
I'm shocked the Alice/Halestorm tour with Motionless In White doesn't even have a single Canadian date. North American Tour but no Canada at all ?
There's still gaps in the schedule. I have no inside info but you never know what will be added.
It's not like Alice to skip Canada.

EDIT: And don`t forget he is in Edenvale, ONT just before these dates.
I did just notice the Edenval date, but that is pretty much in the middle of nowhere so I hope there is more added. There is a new 5000 seat venue being built as part of the Casino in Niagara Falls that is supposed to open in June, that would be a perfect place.
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