Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by mestreech » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:10 pm

Not a hit for me. Must listen more often.
Like the original better but I'm a big Lou Reed fan.

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Post by revinkevin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:49 pm

Think it would be better suited for a Vampires release. I want original songs from a Alice release.

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Post by killer wolf » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:17 pm

it's eased my fears a bit. we've had covers on other albums, if it fits w/ the flow i'll generally go for it, and Alice sounds incredible.
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Post by pitkin88 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:19 pm

It's ok but do we really need it?

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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by Si » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:26 pm

pitkin88 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:19 pm
It's ok but do we really need it?
To be fair do we really need ANY new music... We want it and it's nice to hear new stuff, but the old standbys will always be there, and generally be better for numerous reasons..

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Post by pitkin88 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:34 pm

Si wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:26 pm
pitkin88 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:19 pm
It's ok but do we really need it?
To be fair do we really need ANY new music... We want it and it's nice to hear new stuff, but the old standbys will always be there, and generally be better for numerous reasons..
At this point I would rather he fall flat on his face with a new song than another cover. The problem with this song is it is too iconic. Same with a lot of the HV covers. I think there are maybe 8 or 9 new songs on the album which to me is a problem.

I would like him to experiment a bit more rather than fall back on his laurels. It's not like he plays any new stuff live so why not live a little dangerously?

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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by Spiner202 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:05 pm

Seems I've enjoyed this less than most here. I've never heard the original, but the song feels lethargic and safe. Alice does something cool with his voice a couple of times, and I liked the guitar solos, but this is a weak opening track. I can't help but feel that if Chuck/Nita/Ryan were involved in the record, it would be heavier and more energetic than this. I'm sure I'll grow to love it, as has been the case with almost everything Alice has done, but I didn't think this track was anything special.

Also, not sure if anyone saw but Apple Music has the song lengths, so it looks like despite being 15 tracks, the album is about 50 minutes. That's a major relief!

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Post by patrick » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:37 pm

In this stage of his carreer I'd rather have a good sounding album- be it covers- than another ACAS e.g. Much work and fantastic pr that didn't work out well afaik...
Alice doesn't have to proof (or to risk..)anything anymore imho..
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Post by kevinuk81 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:48 pm

Honestly, is this the best he can do? Might be time to play more golf.
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Post by Logan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:58 pm

I honestly like Lou's original version I'm not really impressed with this one. But if others like it more power to ya. Now I heard that Neal Smith wrote "Social Debris" and wonder any other titles by the original band? I remember reading they talked about 3 or 4 songs. I wonder how many made it to the final release.

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Post by VinceRaven » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:55 pm

I've listened to it twice now and it's yet another one of those songs that's OK but I have no real interest in returning to. I agree that it's not a strong album opener.

A version of Search and Destroy with his current band could have been a blistering way to begin the record, whilst still being pointless.

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Post by padre_sliprat » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:11 am

As already stated in so many words, I'd rather him make a complete catastrophe of an album than play it safe with boring covers. Of course, I think ZCS is a masterpiece.
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Post by mr.barlow » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:30 am

I agree with you Padre.

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Post by nrc » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:09 am

On first listen I was underwhelmed but on replay I really like the way this track features the Detroit players - much more bass and drums than we've heard in a lot of Ezrin's recent stuff. Bonamassa is a great addition even it doesn't align with the Detroit angle.

It's definitely more true to the Mitch Ryder version but it could still use a little more punch in the vocals and the groove.

I'm interested to hear the rest of it but bummed about the Breadcrumbs cuts. They just felt like throw-aways to me in the original EP. I hope that they've worked to bring those up to snuff. This whole concept feels very similar to "The Eyes of Alice Cooper" and I didn't feel like anything on Breadcrumbs was up to that album - and it's not one of my favorites.

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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by patrick » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:40 am

padre_sliprat wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:11 am
As already stated in so many words, I'd rather him make a complete catastrophe of an album than play it safe with boring covers.
Padre, he already did ! ;)
you really wouldn't understand..

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Post by Pitta » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:12 am

One more pointless cover song...very disappointing. Covers, and the songs from the Breadcrumbs EP...I'm happy for the new Blu-ray...
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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by jacknifejohnny » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:47 am

Ugh, that was a tough listen. I’ll stick to Lou’s “Rock n Roll Animal” version ... in my opinion Hunter and Wagner’s finest hour

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Post by Pitta » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:36 pm

It would be cool to have a deluxe edition. All of the new songs, without the covers ☠️
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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by padre_sliprat » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:06 pm

patrick wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:40 am
padre_sliprat wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:11 am
As already stated in so many words, I'd rather him make a complete catastrophe of an album than play it safe with boring covers.
Padre, he already did ! ;)
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Re: Detroit Stories first song "Rock 'N' Roll" to be available Fri 11-13-20

Post by pitkin88 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:14 pm

Pitta wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:36 pm
It would be cool to have a deluxe edition. All of the new songs, without the covers ☠️
I think the only way to listen to it will be to burn a copy minus the Breadcrumbs songs.

I wonder will there be a deluxe Japanese edition adding the two missing Breadcrumbs song's?

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