biblical touch

Anything Alice Cooper or AC band related goes here

Moderators: Devon, Gorehound, Si, SickThings, Shoesalesman

Post Reply
rgallie
Billion Dollar Baby
Billion Dollar Baby
Posts: 275
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:34 pm

biblical touch

Post by rgallie » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:37 am

Ignoring WTMN does anyone else think The Last Temptation and Brutal Planet are both his strongest solo albums lyrically and musically? They seem to have the clearest influence from his personal beliefs and are both solid albums...I know Dragon town was the BP follow up but imo it is just not a worthy sequel...i'd love to see Alice return to that influence and leave us with an unofficial trilogy....I know Alice likes to have fun wi music but those 2 albums he took a more serious tone and it worked....A nice detroit rock album in the vein of the EP followed by a serious toned album again would be magic in my eyes

concolz
Dada God
Dada God
Posts: 1804
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:07 am

Re: biblical touch

Post by concolz » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:14 pm

rgallie wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:37 am
Ignoring WTMN does anyone else think The Last Temptation and Brutal Planet are both his strongest solo albums lyrically and musically?
I think they are certainly his strongest post-Warner Brothers albums. But, for me, after Alice 'cleaned up', and left WB, he lost the magical x factor. Obviously, for health & sanity reasons, a very clear demarcation line between himself and the character was necessary. However that resulted in him becoming his own 'defanged' pastiche.

TLT & BP (plus DT, to a lesser extent), temporarily circumvented that pastiche label, because his re-embracement of Christianity kickstarted a creatively personal response. The 'morality' trio were the embodiment of Alice the man, rather than the character. Thus, they are imbued with the kind of authenticity that the post WB albums before, and after, lack.

Saint&Sinner
Billion Dollar Baby
Billion Dollar Baby
Posts: 387
Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:59 pm

Re: biblical touch

Post by Saint&Sinner » Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:25 pm

TLT is probably one of the best things he has done full stop. Brutal plant is likewise up there. However i love so much of his post sober stuff - Raise your fist and yell, Trash, Hey stoopid, TLT, brutal planet, W2MN, Paranormal - i love all these albums.
But TLT is top 5 in his career definitely. BP is easy top 10

Babysquid
Billion Dollar Baby
Billion Dollar Baby
Posts: 426
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:13 am

Re: biblical touch

Post by Babysquid » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:54 pm

I really like TLT but I was never that keen on Brutal Planet (a bit too Metal for me). To be honest I’ve never been that taken with WTMN but I love the black out period stuff. TLT definitely gets plenty of spins in our house.

cooperrocks
Fashion Flusher
Fashion Flusher
Posts: 500
Joined: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:42 pm
Location: Tennessee

Re: biblical touch

Post by cooperrocks » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:59 pm

I am a bigger solo Alice fan than the original band (though I like the original band music too). The Last Temptation is my favorite Alice album ever and Brutal Planet would make my Top 5. I really like heavier Alice and would like to see him go back into a heavier direction.

User avatar
Shoesalesman
Little Mermaid
Little Mermaid
Posts: 15175
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:39 pm
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Contact:

Re: biblical touch

Post by Shoesalesman » Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:29 pm

rgallie wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:37 am
I know Dragon town was the BP follow up but imo it is just not a worthy sequel...
I completely agree.
If I may put forward a slice of personal colostomy...

lordcatfish
Trash
Trash
Posts: 49
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:26 pm
Location: Liverpool, UK
Contact:

Re: biblical touch

Post by lordcatfish » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:02 pm

I think The Last Temptation is his best solo album, and behind only School's Out in the overall canon. I love that sinister, creepy undercurrent it has. Very strong both musically and lyrically.

Brutal Planet I'm less keen on. I do like a lot of the songs, but I'm not a big fan of how stiff and mechanical it all sounds (particularly the bass drums).

Post Reply