Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

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Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by mr.barlow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:11 pm

I thought I'd start a new thread where we can throw out Alice lyrics & songs and see how we each interpret the meaning(s). I'll start it off with a very deep lyric from Constrictor.

"Suki honey it's time we turn back the clock
To a time when we danced to volcanic rock"

At any rate--all kidding aside, hopefully this thread will be of interest and discussion to people.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Phil1985 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:37 pm

Pardon my ignorance on this, but Whilst on the thrill my gorilla subject, what exactly is Suki in this context? Is it a woman’s name? Or I think, don’t quote me though, that there is a Japanese word ‘suki’ although I’m not sure what it means. If anyone could shed any light on this then you will solve a 20 year conundrum.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by mr.barlow » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:56 pm

Suki is a woman's name commonly used by the Japanese.

This leads me to believe that kane is responsible for these lyrics. Kane is obsessed with Japanese culture...and at the time gorillas.

And yes....i'm completely serious.

Amuk....do you remember the gorilla obsession?

Also I think there is a song called "Gorilla" on one of his solo albums.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Phil1985 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:42 am

That’s true actually, he has a self titled solo album with a song called Gorilla.
Thank you for clearing up the mystery mr Barlow.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Rhapsody of Fire » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:16 am

Well, since the song takes place in prehistoric times, plus Japanese woman's name, the song's title should have been "Thrill my Godzilla", not Gorilla.

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Post by Saint&Sinner » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:31 am

Love me some "gorilla"! some nice guitar chops for sure.
Thrill my gorilla.....not so much

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by patrick » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:38 pm

six hours ..
always wondered about this song : six hours till when ? why ?
wash the dust from your hair now.... : what happened ??
you really wouldn't understand..

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:09 pm

From: mr.barlow:
"Amuk....do you remember the gorilla obsession?"

There was at least one conversation about that subject that I can recall.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by mr.barlow » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:56 pm

patrick wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:38 pm
six hours ..
always wondered about this song : six hours till when ? why ?
wash the dust from your hair now.... : what happened ??
These lyrics sound to me as basically "throw away" lyrics, or that were never finished. Likely a filler song.

I think the use of "six hours" was generic. It could have been eight, ten twelve hours etc.

The song seems to me to be about spending the six hours with a loved one before they leave and the person not wanting that person to leave. "Put your head on my pillow (wanting her to fall asleep---wash the dust from your hair (washing your hair), anything that would prevent her from leaving.

The lack of verses and repetition of the chorus leaves me with the impression that this is a meaningless song, with some crap thrown together just to fill up space on the album.

Basically meaningless.

However--if you want to try to dig deep --in The Bible--the sixth hour is in the story of the Crucifixtion of Christ. But to me it has zero relation in these lyrics. Perhaps Alice was in Bible study that day and just chose "six hours" as it was fresh in his head :)

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Swinger » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:29 pm

patrick wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:38 pm
six hours ..
always wondered about this song : six hours till when ? why ?
wash the dust from your hair now.... : what happened ??
I remember reading two theories I liked back when Dirty Diamonds was new.
1) They're having an affair and in six hours she has to return to her husband.
2) She's a ghost/zombie/corpse and she has to return/be returned to her grave in six hours. (hence the dust in the hair)

Must say I really love Six Hours as a song, a gem on a mediocre album.
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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by pitkin88 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:25 am

Try as I can I can't remember that song so I'll side with Mr Barlow on that one.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by pitkin88 » Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:27 am

Can anyone tell me why he is No Longer an Umpire? That song is deep.

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Post by mr.barlow » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:25 pm

He had to retire. He got hit in the chin with too many balls.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by patrick » Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:43 pm

Swinger wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:29 pm
2) She's a ghost/zombie/corpse and she has to return/be returned to her grave in six hours. (hence the dust in the hair)
Must say I really love Six Hours as a song, a gem on a mediocre album.
Love it too.
Agree with your 2nd suggestion..
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by mr.barlow » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:26 pm

Perhaps she was horseback riding all day in Phoenix and had dust in her hair.

Alice knew she was tired and needed a pillow but that she had better wash her hair first as to not to dirty it.

She had to leave in six hours to fly to a rodeo in Montana.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by patrick » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:42 pm

It's the contradictions in the song that i found strange... on the one hand it's kind of a lovesong (be it a strange one,)and on the other hand he doesn't care if she ever gets home..
But of course I didn't know about the horse.😏
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Ted Sallis » Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:01 pm

One song which fans have sometimes wondered what it is about is Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.

To me it could be about a Refugee with Alice portraying the 'Savior' of that person. I know that others elsewhere have found deeper/different interpretations of what the song could be about.

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Post by killer wolf » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:20 pm

genius.com is the place to go for lyric interpretations. some really interesting and insightful comments.
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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by mr.barlow » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:03 pm

Ted Sallis wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:01 pm
One song which fans have sometimes wondered what it is about is Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.

To me it could be about a Refugee with Alice portraying the 'Savior' of that person. I know that others elsewhere have found deeper/different interpretations of what the song could be about.

Ted
I'm guessing it's about a woman--possibly a prostitute that he thinks he can change.

To me the line "you can pull my leg or anything" can be taken two ways.
1) he will allow her to tell him lies
2) It's Alice's sense of humor using a play on words meaning she can pull his leg or the innuendo of pulling his trouser snake.

As the song progresses he finds it's a losing cause and wants out.

This song has never really been on my Alice playlist and I'm also guessing there was not too much thought put into the lyrics at the time considering the amount of incredible lyrical content that's on the album. Likely a filler track.

Those are my opinions and if anyone has info on the genesis and writing of the song I'd love to hear it.

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Re: Analyzing & The Meaning Of Lyrics & Songs

Post by Ted Sallis » Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:10 am

^^ Interesting observations. Thanks for your insight. My 1st guess would be that the song is about a woman too. It's probably my least favourite song on the album but I think it's quite good overall.

I agree with no.2 re. the 'you can pull my leg or anything' line.

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