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...by Alice Cooper (band or solo). I'll post mine once I've had a good study.

PFY: Titanic Overture
EA: Return Of The Spiders
KITD: Ballad If Dwight Fry
Killer: Killer
SO: My Stars
BDB: ILTD
MOL: Workin Up A Sweat
FTF: Clones
SF: Vicious Rumours
Da Da: Da Da

As of this minute:-

• 1. Killer - HOF/DBs/Killer (Three-way tie!)
  2. SO - My Stars
  3. LITD - Black Juju
  4. BDB - ILTD
  5. Dada - Pass The Gun
  6. PFY - Titanic Overture
  7. WTMN - Cold Ethyl
  8. BP - Pick Up The Bones
  9. GTH - Guilty
  10 FTI - Quiet Room

This is my first post on this board!

Since 2005, I have annually rated every Alice Cooper song from 1-10. I reviewed the annual score variations to see how the music ages on me. Here are the results of favorite albums (simply established by average score of all songs on the album), each with the best song on it.

This leads to interesting effects.

For example, Poison is one of my favorite songs, but since I didn't come to a high album score, it doesn't show up on this list at all.

Also, sometimes my overall impression of an album ranking deviates from the song average score of that album. But it's close.

1. Hey Stoopid (Hey Stoopid)
2. The Eyes of Alice Cooper (Novocaine)
3. The Last Temptation (Sideshow)
4. Dragontown (Triggerman)
5. Welcome to My Nightmare (Department of Youth)
6. Welcome 2 My Nightmare (I'll Bite Your Face Off)
7. Raise Your Fist and Yell (Freedom)
8. Brutal Planet (Brutal Planet)
9. From the Inside (From the Inside)
10. Love it to Death tie with Killer (Caught in a Dream and Desperado)

It seems the presence of Alice Cooper group albums vs solo albums on this list may have to do with the age when I discovered Alice Cooper. It was in 1992, after Hey Stoopid had come out. I imagine this is different for those who were already fans in the 70s. I found it harder to relate to the 70s music until I had absorbed the more current albums.

Are there any other thoughts on how to best identify actual favorites that stand the test of time?

PFY: Sing Low, Sweet Cheerio
EA: Below Your Means
LITD: Black JuJu
SO: Grand Finale
School Days, LP One: Changing, Arranging
School Days, LP Two: Laughing At Me
BDB: Sick Things
MOL: Woman Machine
Greatest Hits: Teenage Lament '74
TACS: I'm Eighteen

1. Love It To Death
2. Killer
3. School's Out
4. Billion Dollar Babies
5. Welcome To My Nightmare
6. Easy Action
7. Dada
8. Muscle Of Love
9. Goes To Hell
10. From The Inside

I put my top 20 songs on another forum post not too long ago. The top ten pretty much all come from ACG albums.

Not in exact order but just my 10 fave albums

1 - Brutal Planet - Pick up the bones
2 - The Last Temptation - Cleansed By Fire
3 - Hey Stoopid - Wind Up Toy
4 - Raise Your Fist And Yell - Chop,chop,chop/gail/roses on white lace (come on, its a trilogy ) if only one it would be roses on white lace
5 - From the Inside - We're all crazy
6 - Welcome To My Nightmare - Steven
7 - Welcome 2 my nightmare - I Am Made of you (or maybe under the bed - hard to choose)
8 - Billion dollar Babies - Billion Dollar Babies
9 - Killer - Dead Babies/Killer
10 - DADA - Pass the gun around or Trash - Poison

DADA is a tough one, I hate half the album but I adore the other half hahaha I love all of trash but no individual track is as good as pass the gun around.

WTMN Steven
FTI The Quiet Room
DADA Dada
KILLER Halo Of Flies
L&W My God
MOL Big Apple Dreamin'
SO My Stars
ACGTH I'm Going Home
BP Brutal Planet
LITD Ballad Of Dwight Frye

Conspiracy wrote:This is my first post on this board!

Since 2005, I have annually rated every Alice Cooper song from 1-10. I reviewed the annual score variations to see how the music ages on me. Here are the results of favorite albums (simply established by average score of all songs on the album), each with the best song on it.

This leads to interesting effects.

For example, Poison is one of my favorite songs, but since I didn't come to a high album score, it doesn't show up on this list at all.

Also, sometimes my overall impression of an album ranking deviates from the song average score of that album. But it's close.

1. Hey Stoopid (Hey Stoopid)
2. The Eyes of Alice Cooper (Novocaine)
3. The Last Temptation (Sideshow)
4. Dragontown (Triggerman)
5. Welcome to My Nightmare (Department of Youth)
6. Welcome 2 My Nightmare (I'll Bite Your Face Off)
7. Raise Your Fist and Yell (Freedom)
8. Brutal Planet (Brutal Planet)
9. From the Inside (From the Inside)
10. Love it to Death tie with Killer (Caught in a Dream and Desperado)

It seems the presence of Alice Cooper group albums vs solo albums on this list may have to do with the age when I discovered Alice Cooper. It was in 1992, after Hey Stoopid had come out. I imagine this is different for those who were already fans in the 70s. I found it harder to relate to the 70s music until I had absorbed the more current albums.

Are there any other thoughts on how to best identify actual favorites that stand the test of time?

I didn't rate these albuns but agree with your choices on 2 3 4 6 and 8.

guttertrash wrote:1. Love It To Death
2. Killer
3. School's Out
4. Billion Dollar Babies
5. Welcome To My Nightmare
6. Easy Action
7. Dada
8. Muscle Of Love
9. Goes To Hell
10. From The Inside

I put my top 20 songs on another forum post not too long ago. The top ten pretty much all come from ACG albums.

Re. the list above: if you move MOL from #8 to #1, take out #5, 7, 9 and 10 and put PFY beside EA (tie) you'll have my list in chronological order from my favourite to least favourite. As for my favourite songs from each, I'll consider what my choices would be and will provide them here when I decide.

Ted

pitkin88 wrote:

Conspiracy wrote:This is my first post on this board!

Since 2005, I have annually rated every Alice Cooper song from 1-10. I reviewed the annual score variations to see how the music ages on me. Here are the results of favorite albums (simply established by average score of all songs on the album), each with the best song on it.

This leads to interesting effects.

For example, Poison is one of my favorite songs, but since I didn't come to a high album score, it doesn't show up on this list at all.

Also, sometimes my overall impression of an album ranking deviates from the song average score of that album. But it's close.

1. Hey Stoopid (Hey Stoopid)
2. The Eyes of Alice Cooper (Novocaine)
3. The Last Temptation (Sideshow)
4. Dragontown (Triggerman)
5. Welcome to My Nightmare (Department of Youth)
6. Welcome 2 My Nightmare (I'll Bite Your Face Off)
7. Raise Your Fist and Yell (Freedom)
8. Brutal Planet (Brutal Planet)
9. From the Inside (From the Inside)
10. Love it to Death tie with Killer (Caught in a Dream and Desperado)

It seems the presence of Alice Cooper group albums vs solo albums on this list may have to do with the age when I discovered Alice Cooper. It was in 1992, after Hey Stoopid had come out. I imagine this is different for those who were already fans in the 70s. I found it harder to relate to the 70s music until I had absorbed the more current albums.

Are there any other thoughts on how to best identify actual favorites that stand the test of time?

I didn't rate these albuns but agree with your choices on 2 3 4 6 and 8.

all agreed. it seems there are 2 types of fans. those who lost interest after ~1974, and those who didn't.

My Top 10 albums seems to vary from time to time with the exception of Dada being always at #1. School's Out is also solidifying in the #2 spot.

Top 10 albums:
#1 Dada
#2 School's Out
#3 Special Forces
#4 Goes To Hell
#5 Flush The Fashion
#6 The Last Temptation
#7 Billion Dollar Babies
#8 Welcome To My Nightmare
#9 Brutal Planet
#10 Killer

My Top 10 individual tracks basically changes from day to day. So here is my list for today!

#1 My Stars
#2 Enough's Enough
#3 Pass The Gun Around
#4 Vicious Rumours (one of Alice's greatest songs)
#5 Raped And Freezin
#6 King Of The Silver Screen
#7 Cleansed By Fire (another incredible song)
#8 Muscle Of Love
#9 Public Animal #9 (Alice's best vocal performance)
#10 Gimme

The first album I bought by Alice was The Last Temptation when I was 12. I knew who Alice was due to listening to my dad's Greatest Hits lp and WTMN, so when I saw that album in a store, I wanted it. I thought Sideshow was cool, but I really didn't like the rest of the album, because I like classic rock, and it sounded like contemporary rock music of it's era which I was not a fan of. As a teenager, I got the ACG albums, because I wanted the albums that greatest hits covered. I was 18 when Brutal Planet came out, and I was going to school to be a minister, and I heard about Alice making Brutal Planet from a Christian point of view, so I listened, and I connected due to that. I am not that person anymore though, so the album just isn't the same. It's not bad at all, but it's not a style of music I cared for, and only connected with due to my worldview at that time. Over time, I bought all the albums on vinyl just because I like vinyl, and I figured I would give each album a chance, but even though I like a few things here and there, I really do not connect with anything he did after the ACG except his first two solo albums which still were pretty rock n' roll even though they were a step away from the ACG sound and the blackout years, even though I am much younger and have most everything on vinyl in my collection.

guttertrash wrote:1. Love It To Death
2. Killer
3. School's Out
4. Billion Dollar Babies
5. Welcome To My Nightmare
6. Easy Action
7. Dada
8. Muscle Of Love
9. Goes To Hell
10. From The Inside

I put my top 20 songs on another forum post not too long ago. The top ten pretty much all come from ACG albums.

I also just realized I put From The Inside, but I meant Flush The Fashion.

Conspiracy,

First welcome to the board. I agree with what you have said concerning Alice fans. I don't want to get into an original band vs solo Alice debate but I agree it does often revolve around what age you are. I like all eras of Alice personally with my favorite overall period from 1986-2000.

Anyway:

1) From the Inside-Nurse Rozetta
2) The Last Temptation-Nothing's Free/ You're My Temptation (tie)
3) Love It To Death-Caught in a Dream
4) Brutal Planet-Pick Up the Bones
5) Welcome To My Nightmare-Steven
6) Billion Dollar Babies-Generation Landslide
7) Hey Stoopid-Wind Up Toy/Love's a Loaded Gun (tie)
8) Dada-Former Lee Warmer
9) Raise Your Fist and Yell-Freedom
10) W2MN-When Hell Comes Home

1) Dada - Pass the Gun Around
2) From the Inside - Inmates (We're all crazy)
3) Welcome To My Nightmare - Steven
4) Killer - Dead Babies
5) School's Out - My Stars
6) The Last Temptation - Cleansed By Fire
7) Raise Your Fist And Yell - Roses On White Lace
8) Welcome 2 My Nightmare - I Am Made of You
9) Love It To Death - Ballad of Dwight Fry
10) Dragontown - Dragontown

Honorable mention goes to Brutal Planet album and Pick Up The Bones song which is one of the greatest Alice Cooper songs ever. Billion Dollar Babies album wouldn't be on my list even if I expanded it to top 15 Alice Cooper albums. I don't dislike that album but it is not an album I would award with 5 stars or even 4 stars. If I had to rate it, I would give it 3.5/5. I don't have pleasant memories of the time I first heard it, in fact quite contrary. It wasn't the happiest time of my life. But that doesn't completely explain my lack of enthusiasm towards the album
because I heard Killer around the same time and it is 4th on my list.

Special Forces on the other hand is the most terrible album AC has ever released. It makes Constrictor sound brilliant in comparison.

cooperrocks wrote:Conspiracy,

First welcome to the board. I agree with what you have said concerning Alice fans. I don't want to get into an original band vs solo Alice debate but I agree it does often revolve around what age you are. I like all eras of Alice personally with my favorite overall period from 1986-2000.

Anyway:

1) From the Inside-Nurse Rozetta
2) The Last Temptation-Nothing's Free/ You're My Temptation (tie)
3) Love It To Death-Caught in a Dream
4) Brutal Planet-Pick Up the Bones
5) Welcome To My Nightmare-Steven
6) Billion Dollar Babies-Generation Landslide
7) Hey Stoopid-Wind Up Toy/Love's a Loaded Gun (tie)
8) Dada-Former Lee Warmer
9) Raise Your Fist and Yell-Freedom
10) W2MN-When Hell Comes Home

I disagree that it revolves around age. I was born in '82, and I think he has made 3 listenable albums since I was born. Brutal Planet, Dragontown, and Dirty Diamonds. I do not consider any of them essential or even great though.

I am speaking in general terms. I know when I play Alice albums for much younger cousins/relatives, they tend to love the newer stuff but the 70's albums not so much. I played Billion Dollar Babies for a relative recently and their comment was, "It is okay but sounds too much like old fogie music to me" (their quote not mine and I did not agree obviously but still that was his thought). But when I played Raise Your Fist and Yell and Brutal Planet he said, "Now this is stuff I like!" I have met many people like that. I like all eras of Alice and I was born in 1971 but the original band albums would for the most part be middle of the pack for me and most of my buddies who are Alice fans and in my age group prefer the more modern stuff as well.

The parents of most kids grew up listening to 80s and 90s music, so what their parents listen to and play mostly is going to have a huge effect on what they listen too. My circle of friends have kids that listen to mostly classic rock and punk, because the musician circle that I am a part of plays that kind of music, and most of us only listen to that era or bands that are heavily influenced by that era. I would assume that is a rare situation these days, because most of the people I know that are my age listen to modern rock music, so their kids will be more prone to enjoying it also.

1. The Last Temptation - Cleansed by fire
2. Hey Stoopid - Wind up toy
3. Love it to death - Ballad of Dwight Fry
4. Dada - Scarlet and Sheba/Pass the gun around
5. From the inside - Nurse Rozetta
6. Trash - Poison
7. Raise your fist and yell - Time to kill/Roses on white lace
8. Welcome to my Nightmare - Steven/The awakening
9. Brutal Planet - Cold machines
10. Flush the fashion - Model citizen/Clones/Pain

But I also really love the Billion Dollar Babies, Constrictor, Zipper Catches skin, Dragontown and Dirty Diamonds albums. Killer is also cool, but he plays always Under my wheels (one of my less favourite Alice Cooper song)and Be my lover from that, and I like Dead Babies and Desperado more.