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nurserozetta wrote:Not sure how viable a tour by the ACG would be - given their are still tickets left for this Sundays show - they would have to think carefully about venue size etc - having said that I would probably go

The very sad thing is that the original guys just don`t have the pulling power that Alice does.
I remember when we did Sickcon. Sickcon sold out, based on several factors (convention/added value, only UK show etc) BUT when BDS added a few more shows around Sickcon they struggled to sell tickets. Of course the fact that the diehards already had sickcon tickets probably didn`t help! At one show near Birmingham the support act pulled more people then they did, as shown when 80% of the audience seemed to leave after the local opening act (a Nirvana tribute if I recall) finished.
It's very sad and shouldn`t be that way but it's a fact of life.

If the singer was Iggy that would be perfect and yes, I would go.
Other possible choice: Mike Monroe.
As far as the guitar player goes, anyone that is no guitar hero or metal shredder would be fine with me.

nurserozetta wrote:Not sure how viable a tour by the ACG would be - given their are still tickets left for this Sundays show - they would have to think carefully about venue size etc - having said that I would probably go

I don't think this is a totally fair assessment. They were added onto this show well after tickets went on sale and it's not been heavily advertised or promoted as a "reunion" or anything from what I've seen. It's more an after thought appearance because they're appearing at the Music Biz thing (which I assume Alice will show up for also).

I would love to see them together, but I'm not driving 8.5 hours to sit 30 rows back, I just don't do that.

As far as a full tour, it depends. If the tour was marketed well, it could do better numbers, especially if there's an interesting twist to it, say recreating the B$B Tour or something along those lines.

If it's simply the typical Alice Cooper style show we've been getting for years now sans post-74 material, or the half-hearted Alice w/ originals appearances where he keeps his hand in his pocket the entire time then perhaps not.

Still, I get the feeling there's not really an appetite from Alice or management to do a full tour with the original guys so I doubt it's ever going to happen and the best we can hope for is these types of one off appearances.

RemarkablyInsincere wrote:

nurserozetta wrote:Not sure how viable a tour by the ACG would be - given their are still tickets left for this Sundays show - they would have to think carefully about venue size etc - having said that I would probably go

I don't think this is a totally fair assessment. They were added onto this show well after tickets went on sale and it's not been heavily advertised or promoted as a "reunion" or anything from what I've seen. It's more an after thought appearance because they're appearing at the Music Biz thing (which I assume Alice will show up for also).

I would love to see them together, but I'm not driving 8.5 hours to sit 30 rows back, I just don't do that.

As far as a full tour, it depends. If the tour was marketed well, it could do better numbers, especially if there's an interesting twist to it, say recreating the B$B Tour or something along those lines.

If it's simply the typical Alice Cooper style show we've been getting for years now sans post-74 material, or the half-hearted Alice w/ originals appearances where he keeps his hand in his pocket the entire time then perhaps not.

Still, I get the feeling there's not really an appetite from Alice or management to do a full tour with the original guys so I doubt it's ever going to happen and the best we can hope for is these types of one off appearances.

I agree. It would be nice to see some actual paying gigs with AC NS DD MB and one other. The full album show could really be explored, I'd even take them playing a short residency in Vegas or Phoenix or whatever. What I wont pay to see is a non rehearsed 30 min set with Alice going through the motions.

Si wrote:

nurserozetta wrote:Not sure how viable a tour by the ACG would be - given their are still tickets left for this Sundays show - they would have to think carefully about venue size etc - having said that I would probably go

The very sad thing is that the original guys just don`t have the pulling power that Alice does.
I remember when we did Sickcon. Sickcon sold out, based on several factors (convention/added value, only UK show etc) BUT when BDS added a few more shows around Sickcon they struggled to sell tickets. Of course the fact that the diehards already had sickcon tickets probably didn`t help! At one show near Birmingham the support act pulled more people then they did, as shown when 80% of the audience seemed to leave after the local opening act (a Nirvana tribute if I recall) finished.
It's very sad and shouldn`t be that way but it's a fact of life.

Is there a setlist anywhere of what they played?

VinceRaven wrote:

Si wrote: The very sad thing is that the original guys just don`t have the pulling power that Alice does.
I remember when we did Sickcon. Sickcon sold out, based on several factors (convention/added value, only UK show etc) BUT when BDS added a few more shows around Sickcon they struggled to sell tickets. Of course the fact that the diehards already had sickcon tickets probably didn`t help! At one show near Birmingham the support act pulled more people then they did, as shown when 80% of the audience seemed to leave after the local opening act (a Nirvana tribute if I recall) finished.
It's very sad and shouldn`t be that way but it's a fact of life.

Is there a setlist anywhere of what they played?

At Sickcon? From my notes it was:
I Want Two / Having The Time Of My Life / Vampire Night / Diner Girl / Love You Too Much / Snakepit Boogie / The Joke's On You / She Was A Bad Girl / The Real Thing / Fallen Angel / Dennis Bass Solo / Alma Mater / Grand Finale / Caught In A Dream / (Don't Fear) The Reaper / Under My Wheels / Astronomy / See You On The Other Side - School's Out - See You On The Other Side / Godzilla / Black Juju / Halo Of Flies (With Michael Bruce) / I'm Eighteen (With Michael Bruce)
Other shows had a shorter setlist.

Si wrote:

VinceRaven wrote:

Si wrote: The very sad thing is that the original guys just don`t have the pulling power that Alice does.
I remember when we did Sickcon. Sickcon sold out, based on several factors (convention/added value, only UK show etc) BUT when BDS added a few more shows around Sickcon they struggled to sell tickets. Of course the fact that the diehards already had sickcon tickets probably didn`t help! At one show near Birmingham the support act pulled more people then they did, as shown when 80% of the audience seemed to leave after the local opening act (a Nirvana tribute if I recall) finished.
It's very sad and shouldn`t be that way but it's a fact of life.

Is there a setlist anywhere of what they played?

At Sickcon? From my notes it was:
I Want Two / Having The Time Of My Life / Vampire Night / Diner Girl / Love You Too Much / Snakepit Boogie / The Joke's On You / She Was A Bad Girl / The Real Thing / Fallen Angel / Dennis Bass Solo / Alma Mater / Grand Finale / Caught In A Dream / (Don't Fear) The Reaper / Under My Wheels / Astronomy / See You On The Other Side - School's Out - See You On The Other Side / Godzilla / Black Juju / Halo Of Flies (With Michael Bruce) / I'm Eighteen (With Michael Bruce)
Other shows had a shorter setlist.

Alma Mater, nice choice.

VinceRaven wrote:

Si wrote:
At Sickcon? From my notes it was:
I Want Two / Having The Time Of My Life / Vampire Night / Diner Girl / Love You Too Much / Snakepit Boogie / The Joke's On You / She Was A Bad Girl / The Real Thing / Fallen Angel / Dennis Bass Solo / Alma Mater / Grand Finale / Caught In A Dream / (Don't Fear) The Reaper / Under My Wheels / Astronomy / See You On The Other Side - School's Out - See You On The Other Side / Godzilla / Black Juju / Halo Of Flies (With Michael Bruce) / I'm Eighteen (With Michael Bruce)
Other shows had a shorter setlist.

Alma Mater, nice choice.

Neal "sang" it

I'd go in hopes of hearing some lesser played gems - Long Way To Go, Luney Tune, or Caught In a Dream.

Si wrote:

VinceRaven wrote:

Si wrote:
At Sickcon? From my notes it was:
I Want Two / Having The Time Of My Life / Vampire Night / Diner Girl / Love You Too Much / Snakepit Boogie / The Joke's On You / She Was A Bad Girl / The Real Thing / Fallen Angel / Dennis Bass Solo / Alma Mater / Grand Finale / Caught In A Dream / (Don't Fear) The Reaper / Under My Wheels / Astronomy / See You On The Other Side - School's Out - See You On The Other Side / Godzilla / Black Juju / Halo Of Flies (With Michael Bruce) / I'm Eighteen (With Michael Bruce)
Other shows had a shorter setlist.

Alma Mater, nice choice.

Neal "sang" it

OK, not so exciting, but I'm still pleased they did it.

I'm Pain wrote:I'd go in hopes of hearing some lesser played gems - Long Way To Go, Luney Tune, or Caught In a Dream.

Luney Tune to me, and quite a few others I think, has near holy grail status when it comes to hearing it live. I've resigned myself to it never happening though. Revisiting My Stars or Hard Hearted Alice would be immense.

Luney Tune is epic !
One of my all time favourites.
Bring it on !

VinceRaven wrote:

I'm Pain wrote:I'd go in hopes of hearing some lesser played gems - Long Way To Go, Luney Tune, or Caught In a Dream.

Luney Tune to me, and quite a few others I think, has near holy grail status when it comes to hearing it live. I've resigned myself to it never happening though. Revisiting My Stars or Hard Hearted Alice would be immense.

I consider Luney Tune to be the most underrated song by the ACG, and maybe Alice's best vocal performance ever (in my opinion). That song is an absolute monster.......

I'm Pain wrote:

VinceRaven wrote:

I'm Pain wrote:I'd go in hopes of hearing some lesser played gems - Long Way To Go, Luney Tune, or Caught In a Dream.

Luney Tune to me, and quite a few others I think, has near holy grail status when it comes to hearing it live. I've resigned myself to it never happening though. Revisiting My Stars or Hard Hearted Alice would be immense.

I consider Luney Tune to be the most underrated song by the ACG, and maybe Alice's best vocal performance ever (in my opinion). That song is an absolute monster.......

I agree with everything stated above 110%. I've mentioned elsewhere - not sure if it's in this thread or even this Forum - that I'd also like to see/hear Hallowed be My Name and Man With the Golden Gun played live which would be the 1st time for both songs as far as I know.

Ted