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Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:23 pm
by wind_up_toy
This has been bugging me for a while, so thought I would ask.

At the end of Chop, Chop, Chop, what is the reason for Alice reading out the letters of the name Mary but pronouncing it as Gail?

I love it but am also baffled!

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:50 pm
by Dannorama
He's obsessed with Gail. Every girl is Gail to him. That's a scary state of mind. (Plus, it rhymes with "pale!")

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:37 pm
by patrick
the second name of Sheryl is Gail...
don't know if it has something to do with it , though..

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:43 pm
by mr.barlow
Dannorama wrote:He's obsessed with Gail. Every girl is Gail to him. That's a scary state of mind. (Plus, it rhymes with "pale!")
Basically you summed it up perfectly. I don't think that there was any significance to the name "Mary".

who knows? Maybe he was looking at Ken Mary when he was writing the lyrics :)

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:17 am
by wind_up_toy
Thanks guys, gratefully appreciated :)

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:49 am
by AlongCameASpider27
Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:51 am
by killer wolf
i assume it was only cos it has 4 letters and fit in w/ the lyric flow.

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:45 pm
by pitkin88
AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:00 pm
by Saint&Sinner
chop, chop, chop/gail/roses is a fantastic trilogy. No doubt,
But yes he is killing prostitutes and thinks they are all "gail" he reads the anklet which says mary but he then twists it in his mind to be gail.

Both names could be inspired by ken and his missus (i always presumed as such)

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:27 pm
by pitkin88
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Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:13 am
by ThePainAddict
pitkin88 wrote:
AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?
Kind of a cheap shot. He put an abstinent shunner of pornography in hell, so clearly not placing judgment on overt morality, or lack thereof.

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Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:46 am
by mr.barlow
pitkin88 wrote:
AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?
I think the original plan was to have the character be in the habit of killing nuns. Shep had him change it as he felt it may hurt album sales in Vatican City.

Also I think originally Alice spelled out the name "Shirley" but after they played it back it just didn't sound right. He then tried "Esther" but that too didn't work.

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:58 pm
by cooperrocks
Great song from a great album. RYFAY is one of my favorite Alice albums.

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:36 pm
by HORRORHOLIC
Me too. I absolutely love it. I just wish Alice wouldn't completely ignore it.

Re: Gail / Mary

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:37 pm
by wind_up_toy
Some fascinating comments here, thanks all.

I'm definitely a fan of the trilogy and the album in general. Cooler than Trash and comes close to the intense feeling you get at a live show.