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Gail / Mary

Post by wind_up_toy » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:23 pm

This has been bugging me for a while, so thought I would ask.

At the end of Chop, Chop, Chop, what is the reason for Alice reading out the letters of the name Mary but pronouncing it as Gail?

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Post by Dannorama » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:50 pm

He's obsessed with Gail. Every girl is Gail to him. That's a scary state of mind. (Plus, it rhymes with "pale!")
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Re: Gail / Mary

Post by patrick » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:37 pm

the second name of Sheryl is Gail...
don't know if it has something to do with it , though..
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Post by mr.barlow » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:43 pm

Dannorama wrote:He's obsessed with Gail. Every girl is Gail to him. That's a scary state of mind. (Plus, it rhymes with "pale!")
Basically you summed it up perfectly. I don't think that there was any significance to the name "Mary".

who knows? Maybe he was looking at Ken Mary when he was writing the lyrics :)

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Post by wind_up_toy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:17 am

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Post by AlongCameASpider27 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:49 am

Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly
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Post by killer wolf » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:51 am

i assume it was only cos it has 4 letters and fit in w/ the lyric flow.
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Post by pitkin88 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:45 pm

AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?

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Post by Saint&Sinner » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:00 pm

chop, chop, chop/gail/roses is a fantastic trilogy. No doubt,
But yes he is killing prostitutes and thinks they are all "gail" he reads the anklet which says mary but he then twists it in his mind to be gail.

Both names could be inspired by ken and his missus (i always presumed as such)

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Post by pitkin88 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:27 pm

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Post by ThePainAddict » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:13 am

pitkin88 wrote:
AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?
Kind of a cheap shot. He put an abstinent shunner of pornography in hell, so clearly not placing judgment on overt morality, or lack thereof.

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Post by mr.barlow » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:46 am

pitkin88 wrote:
AlongCameASpider27 wrote:Well as he is hunting prostitutes, another way to interpret Mary was the fact Jack the Rippers most famous victim was Mary Jane Kelly

I am so unfamiliar with this album. It is pretty much inlistenable. I didn't know he was hunting prostitutes, It begs the question is it ok for Alice/Spider to kill only prostitutes as opposed to women in general? Could it be that Alice ( because of his Christianity ) thinks they deserve it?
I think the original plan was to have the character be in the habit of killing nuns. Shep had him change it as he felt it may hurt album sales in Vatican City.

Also I think originally Alice spelled out the name "Shirley" but after they played it back it just didn't sound right. He then tried "Esther" but that too didn't work.

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Post by cooperrocks » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:58 pm

Great song from a great album. RYFAY is one of my favorite Alice albums.

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Post by HORRORHOLIC » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:36 pm

Me too. I absolutely love it. I just wish Alice wouldn't completely ignore it.
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Post by wind_up_toy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:37 pm

Some fascinating comments here, thanks all.

I'm definitely a fan of the trilogy and the album in general. Cooler than Trash and comes close to the intense feeling you get at a live show.
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