2017 is the 30th anniversary of Raise Your Fist and Yell

While Heaven Wept · Post by **While Heaven Wept** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:25 pm

Saint&Sinner wrote:RYFAY is a tight, blistering exercise in high octane metal with everyone on top of their game.

Let's not blow things out of proportion. RYFAY is a marked improvement on Constrictor but that's not saying much. The production still lacks any meat, there are still a bunch of pretty juvenile and lazy lyrics and apart from the last three tracks, it has a lot of filler.

But yeah, it's still miles better than ACAS.

kevinuk81 · Post by **kevinuk81** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:36 pm

Still bashing ACAS.

HORRORHOLIC · Post by **HORRORHOLIC** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:30 am

While Heaven Wept wrote:
Saint&Sinner wrote:RYFAY is a tight, blistering exercise in high octane metal with everyone on top of their game.
Let's not blow things out of proportion. RYFAY is a marked improvement on Constrictor but that's not saying much. The production still lacks any meat, there are still a bunch of pretty juvenile and lazy lyrics and apart from the last three tracks, it has a lot of filler.

But yeah, it's still miles better than ACAS.

The only thing I agree with is the production. This is an album that could really use remastering.

As for Alice having a problem playing these songs because of his beliefs. I can remember reading on this very site, someone here who met Alice and asked him about it. Alice apparently said he's thought about doing the trilogy and had certain ideas for Calico and him to do if they did perform them. That must have been nearly a decade ago though.

GailsFriend · Post by **GailsFriend** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:43 pm

RYFAY was recorded, mixed and mastered in DDD....meaning, it was all digitally done at every phase of making the album. The code is on the back of the CD. So, I don't think it can be "remastered" any better...

mestreech · Post by **mestreech** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:30 pm

GailsFriend wrote:RYFAY was recorded, mixed and mastered in DDD....meaning, it was all digitally done at every phase of making the album. The code is on the back of the CD. So, I don't think it can be "remastered" any better...

Ok a new mix then.

GailsFriend · Post by **GailsFriend** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:33 am

RYFAY was mixed digitally also...again....I don't think it can be mixed any better. Again: "DDD" means digital recording, digital mixing, and digital mastering....now, if you disagree with what Michael Wagener did with producing the album....that is a whole different issue....but, since analog was not involved in the process, I don't believe there is any room for change, except maybe make it "louder"....which is annoying. That is the process, where the album's levels are increased.

Babysquid · Post by **Babysquid** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:19 am

GailsFriend wrote:RYFAY was mixed digitally also...again....I don't think it can be mixed any better. Again: "DDD" means digital recording, digital mixing, and digital mastering....now, if you disagree with what Michael Wagener did with producing the album....that is a whole different issue....but, since analog was not involved in the process, I don't believe there is any room for change, except maybe make it "louder"....which is annoying. That is the process, where the album's levels are increased.

Just because it's digital doesn't mean it can't be remixed as long as the multitrack is available and whose to say the current mix can't be improved upon.

While Heaven Wept · Post by **While Heaven Wept** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:03 pm

GailsFriend wrote:RYFAY was mixed digitally also...again....I don't think it can be mixed any better. Again: "DDD" means digital recording, digital mixing, and digital mastering....now, if you disagree with what Michael Wagener did with producing the album....that is a whole different issue....but, since analog was not involved in the process, I don't believe there is any room for change, except maybe make it "louder"....which is annoying. That is the process, where the album's levels are increased.

That's nonsense. I'm guessing you don't know much about how digital mixing works? Of course it can be mixed differently.

While Heaven Wept · Post by **While Heaven Wept** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:04 pm

kevinuk81 wrote:Still bashing ACAS.

Yes. It's an awful album.

kevinuk81 · Post by **kevinuk81** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:14 pm

While Heaven Wept wrote:
kevinuk81 wrote:Still bashing ACAS.
Yes. It's an awful album.

Would rather listen to ACAS than DaDa.

Waits for the bashing to start.

Babysquid · Post by **Babysquid** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:23 pm

kevinuk81 wrote:
While Heaven Wept wrote:
kevinuk81 wrote:Still bashing ACAS.
Yes. It's an awful album.
Would rather listen to ACAS than DaDa.

Waits for the bashing to start.

bash bash bash bash bash!

ThePainAddict · Post by **ThePainAddict** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:32 pm

kevinuk81 wrote:
While Heaven Wept wrote:
kevinuk81 wrote:Still bashing ACAS.
Yes. It's an awful album.
Would rather listen to ACAS than DaDa.

Waits for the bashing to start.

Totally agree, never understood all the love for Dada. Formerly is great and then a couple more good songs. With RYFaY, I love Freedom, the trilogy, and couple more good songs.

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While Heaven Wept · Post by **While Heaven Wept** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:46 am

kevinuk81 wrote:
Would rather listen to ACAS than DaDa.

Waits for the bashing to start.

Fair enough, music is subjective and all that.

You are still wrong though.

GailsFriend · Post by **GailsFriend** » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:39 pm

RYFAY is a great album, recorded digitally, and produced fantastically. I couldn't imagine any changes that could make an improvement.

While Heaven Wept · Post by **While Heaven Wept** » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:15 pm

GailsFriend wrote:RYFAY is a great album, recorded digitally, and produced fantastically. I couldn't imagine any changes that could make an improvement.

Why do you keep repeating that it was 'recorded digitally'? Almost all music is recorded digitally these days! It doesn't mean anything.

And to say the production is fantastic is simply not true.... it's pretty poor when you compare to other hard rock albums released around the same time.

Saint&Sinner · Post by **Saint&Sinner** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:44 am

For my money it is a well produced album which could maybe of done with a little bit more on the bottom end. it can feel a touch flat sometimes but other than that it captures the energy and power perfectly.
The "yeah!" alice gives on Step on you in the middle of Kane's superb solo is just delicious. The producer captured the moment (and many more like it) perfectly.

Shoesalesman · Post by **Shoesalesman** » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:13 pm

30 years? Wow. Great memories.

nurserozetta · Post by **nurserozetta** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:06 am

Nita mentioned yesterday that she had Freedom stuck in her head - could it be an inclusion on this years tour ?

AlongCameASpider27 · Post by **AlongCameASpider27** » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:09 pm

nurserozetta wrote:Nita mentioned yesterday that she had Freedom stuck in her head - could it be an inclusion on this years tour ?

I REALLY REALLY hope that is the case...Freedom is my all-time favorite song of Alice's and having never seen it done live other than old bootlegged tours of RYFAY, this would be the best present the setlist ever has done for me...other than if he brought in the trilogy but trust me, if Freedom is in the setlist (which at how rocking of a song it is, how it hasn't been included over the years, is a mystery to me), then hearing that opening cord and that amazing chorus, seeing Nita just own it, and hearing Alice belt it out 30 years later would be beyond awesome...

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:27 pm

Wouldn't freedom be on Alice's list of songs to never sing again?
Only because of the "back off preacher", "I ain't no angel", sort of, minimal respect for religious authorities
Vibe it has going on.
I am only making an assumption about that.
Not to piss on anybodys bonfire by the way, we are in the same boat, my favourite alice song is no mans land
And I've got more chance of seeing Villa win the championship this year than hearing that played live.

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