Dada-promos??
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Dada-promos??
Anyone aware of promos for dada? Ive only seen one promo for zipper was anything done for dada?
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I think Warner Bros issued a very sparse press kit that I think consisted of an 8x 10 photo of Alice (shorter hair and wearing A Clockwork Orange t shirt) and a single page press release in a generic Warner Bros folder.
I believe this was only done due to the requirements of the contract with WB. Warner Bros intention was to kill the album on release. They provided only the promotion they were required by the contract.
I think Shep knew all of this going into the recording of Dada as WB had enough and pulled the plug during or right after the recording of Zipper.
I'm not sure how much Warner's subsidiaries in other countries did for the album but I don't think it was much. The 12" "I Love America" had packaging that had no relation to the album and I'm thinking it's release may have been required by the contract. It was done on the cheap and in a very limited pressing.
Maybe Amuk knows a bit more??
I believe this was only done due to the requirements of the contract with WB. Warner Bros intention was to kill the album on release. They provided only the promotion they were required by the contract.
I think Shep knew all of this going into the recording of Dada as WB had enough and pulled the plug during or right after the recording of Zipper.
I'm not sure how much Warner's subsidiaries in other countries did for the album but I don't think it was much. The 12" "I Love America" had packaging that had no relation to the album and I'm thinking it's release may have been required by the contract. It was done on the cheap and in a very limited pressing.
Maybe Amuk knows a bit more??
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From mr.barlow:
"Maybe Amuk knows a bit more??"
Your post covered it pretty accurately.
"Maybe Amuk knows a bit more??"
Your post covered it pretty accurately.
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I think he might be referring to video promos like the Zipper one.
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As far as I know there was absolutly nothing made. There was no money for anything. WB cut off funding after ZCS for everything except the minimum required by the contract. I think Shep may have personally financed the Dada sessions or at least partilly subsidized them and/or that Ezrin may have produced it for next to nothing. I know Wagner mentions that Shep gave Alice a nice sum of money out of his own pocket just to coax Alice into making it. He felt it was important to keep Alice working as Alice was deeply depressed.
Dada was a labor of love and friendship. They never even expected that WB would release it as WB didn't expect getting it. The WB relationship ended--quite badly--during Zipper.
Dada was a labor of love and friendship. They never even expected that WB would release it as WB didn't expect getting it. The WB relationship ended--quite badly--during Zipper.
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There were no official White label promo's for the album either just a promo sticker and/or stamp.
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Yes,mestreech wrote:There were no official White label promo's for the album either just a promo sticker and/or stamp.
My vinyl is a stamped version. Purchased at a collectors show. Don't know a thing about any videos though.
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From mestreetch:
"There were no official White label promo's for the album either"
Were those still being made around that time, though? I could be wrong but I think from the early eighties onward, it was stickers or stamped album covers.
"There were no official White label promo's for the album either"
Were those still being made around that time, though? I could be wrong but I think from the early eighties onward, it was stickers or stamped album covers.
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Hidden Persuaders - "very rough demo" from Dada sessions I'd like to hear this rough or not.
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I would also love to hear that song. My guess is that it's just a recording of Wagner and Alice either in their hotel suite or the hotel piano. Wagner mentions that the the writing was done mainly in those two places. They would come up with ideas in the room and then take them down to the bar in the hotel which had a piano.
I think they then took them to the studio and Ezrin and flushed them out. I don't think there are any songs that didn't make the album that were demoed that were given any type of quality studio production as they were working on a very tight budget (next to nothing for a major artist) and any cost overruns would be paid for by Shep. I think all involved were very econimical.
I think Ezrin also used this album to hone his skills with the Fairlight and somewhere it is mentioned that a bulk of the time was devoted to Ezrin trying to figure out and use the then state-of-the art equipment. I think he worked for next to nothing--if not nothing at all--for this album.
I would image that this "very rough" demo is simply a cassette recording of Alice and Wagner either in the suite or the bar trying out a song idea.
With that being said--I'd donate a kidney to hear it!
I think they then took them to the studio and Ezrin and flushed them out. I don't think there are any songs that didn't make the album that were demoed that were given any type of quality studio production as they were working on a very tight budget (next to nothing for a major artist) and any cost overruns would be paid for by Shep. I think all involved were very econimical.
I think Ezrin also used this album to hone his skills with the Fairlight and somewhere it is mentioned that a bulk of the time was devoted to Ezrin trying to figure out and use the then state-of-the art equipment. I think he worked for next to nothing--if not nothing at all--for this album.
I would image that this "very rough" demo is simply a cassette recording of Alice and Wagner either in the suite or the bar trying out a song idea.
With that being said--I'd donate a kidney to hear it!
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yeah me too. It is a very unusual title for a song. Thank God they never just took the money and run or we would never have had the final masterpiece.
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Maybe even earlier - I have promos for FTI, Van Halen I, Thin Lizzy Live & Dangerous and Queen Live Killers, all from 1978 and all are just stickered. I know Aerosmith Live Bootleg from '78 has a WLP but I think the industry in general was using stickers and stamps more and more.A_MichaelUK wrote:From mestreetch:
"There were no official White label promo's for the album either"
Were those still being made around that time, though? I could be wrong but I think from the early eighties onward, it was stickers or stamped album covers.
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Japan was still doing WLP into the late 80's. There are examples of other bands with WLP out there too. Probably not the norm but it was certainly not dead. I have X's Burning House Of Love 12 inch WLP from 85 which is on Elektra.
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I'm almost sure I have an WLP of from the inside.Toronto Bob wrote:Maybe even earlier - I have promos for FTI, Van Halen I, Thin Lizzy Live & Dangerous and Queen Live Killers, all from 1978 and all are just stickered. I know Aerosmith Live Bootleg from '78 has a WLP but I think the industry in general was using stickers and stamps more and more.A_MichaelUK wrote:From mestreetch:
"There were no official White label promo's for the album either"
Were those still being made around that time, though? I could be wrong but I think from the early eighties onward, it was stickers or stamped album covers.
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yeah - in no way I'm suggesting WLP don't exists past the late seventies, I just get the sense from ebay sale availability, that the numbers diminished. As well I'm in Canada and my promo items are Canadian not the major market that the US is, we often get the stripped down or cheaper versions of albums.
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From pitkin88:
"Hidden Persuaders - "very rough demo" from Dada sessions I'd like to hear this rough or not."
You wouldn't say that if you actually had.
"Hidden Persuaders - "very rough demo" from Dada sessions I'd like to hear this rough or not."
You wouldn't say that if you actually had.
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From pitkin88:
"It is a very unusual title for a song."
I think it's from a famous book about advertising, which is the kind of thing Alice would do.
"It is a very unusual title for a song."
I think it's from a famous book about advertising, which is the kind of thing Alice would do.
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From Toronto Bob:
"Maybe even earlier - I have promos for FTI"
I am almost certain there was one for "Flush The Fasion" and I don't think I've ever seen one for any Alice Cooper album after that.
"Maybe even earlier - I have promos for FTI"
I am almost certain there was one for "Flush The Fasion" and I don't think I've ever seen one for any Alice Cooper album after that.