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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:13 pm
by Scandal2000
I hate to say it but New West has been a disappointment to me. There was even less of a push for a single than Spitfire and despite the "big opening week" the album is on pace to sell about what The Eyes did. Which label do you think has done a better job for Alice?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:58 pm
by Splinter Cell
Well, to be fair this is New West's first release and we can't be so quick to judge.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:07 am
by ElectedPlus
Spitfire has far much of a better name... so suited for Alice. But for me, it's how much I enjoy the album..or what it means - rather than numbers.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:18 am
by Hey Stoopid
Is threre any difference?:D
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 3:24 am
by WickedYoungMan
New West I think is just a bit ahead of Spitfire as far as a record company in general. But New West blew the lid on Alice. They said they couldn't do any ads for him because it didn't make sense to. A week later, saw Television ads for Delbert McClinton running on National TV at 7 AM. Paid for by New West. Spitfire did a good job on it's level with Brutal Planet though. But you can't give your kid a car, teach him how to drive perfectly once and expect him to be a star driver forever. He'll just get worse and worse from the beginning. Same applied to the sales of his albums. They did one spurt at the beginning, and then just did nothing and his sales got worse and worse. He should go to Roadrunner Records or something. They seem to be pretty decent. (I used to be a supporter of Sanctuary, but now they are in SOOOO deep of crap.) So, I'll have to think about it.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:14 am
by Scandal2000
Splinter Cell,
This was New West's first Alice release. They have put out a ton of other albums from other artists.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:26 pm
by Splinter Cell
That's what I mean. Compared to the albums ALice releases beteween the labels would be a bit premature since one of the labels has only released one album. The safe thing to do would be to wait for more releases then make the compaarason.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:37 pm
by glamprincess
The thing that worries me though, is that new record labels usually try the hardest with the first album that's done with them.
For example, look how Spitfire seemed to do more to promote Alice's first album with them, Brutal Planet, than the follow-up albums Dragontown and The Eyes.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:49 pm
by Madame Bondage
glamprincess wrote:The thing that worries me though, is that new record labels usually try the hardest with the first album that's done with them.
For example, look how Spitfire seemed to do more to promote Alice's first album with them, Brutal Planet, than the follow-up albums Dragontown and The Eyes.
That's a good point Glam and I agree, a worrying one.
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:45 am
by Maurice
Agreed.
( In the UK ) Brutal Planet had lots of 'extras' including screensaver and poster plus a 'Tour Edition' with an interview disc. Plus the single 'Gimme' video disc.
Dragontown also had a poster and Tour edition with additional tracks.
Eyes had the multi-choice of eye colours.
These were all excellent ideas.
What about a 7" vinyl single for "Perfect" - Paul McCartney has just done this interesting variation on a singles package - or at least a 'proper' cd single release with some promo?
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:15 am
by steven
Both N.W and SPIT totally sucks.They have not done their job and never will.Couldn`t get much worse.
Alice should sign with Sanctury.That is a greate label!
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:18 am
by Splinter Cell
steven wrote:Both N.W and SPIT totally sucks.They have not done their job and never will.Couldn`t get much worse.
Alice should sign with Sanctury.That is a greate label!
One problem: Sancturary is in deep financial trouble.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:34 pm
by smanomega
Both of them Suck! Sign with anyone who will provide videos for a visual artist like Alice And not pansy vidoes either like hey stoopid and the like
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:11 pm
by hywel
Madame Bondage wrote:glamprincess wrote:The thing that worries me though, is that new record labels usually try the hardest with the first album that's done with them.
For example, look how Spitfire seemed to do more to promote Alice's first album with them, Brutal Planet, than the follow-up albums Dragontown and The Eyes.
That's a good point Glam and I agree, a worrying one.
yes it is a good point. but don't forget, bp was the new big one. he hadnt released a studio album since tlt. whilst bp was well thought out, i believe that dt was the leftovers and didn't work at all. the eyes had some good points, but i think dd is better. now imagine yourself being a promoter, here is the market. you have bands like greenday doing the business and sticking to the point. then you have a 57 year old who has a great album, and talks about golf and god. do you think that the kids or the general market of today still fall for this? videos cost a bomb. as i have said before alice does himself no favours. the masses no longer see him as a serious entity in rock music anymore. he is where he always wanted to be, a celebrity. period. kids need a saviour they don't need a fake?