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Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:00 pm
by magicchiz
I just saw a repost of the new Cyclops costume. I really wondered why it went away and if Alice is just holding on to it to use it in a different way at some point. Any Ideas, Or anyone in the know?

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:49 pm
by mr.barlow
My guess would be that it was time to move on to something new. Alice always liked to keep things fresh--take something away and add something new.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:07 am
by Swinger
You mean the new cyclops that showed up in 2010? I'd forgotten about that. I don't know why it wasn't used more but didn't FrankenAlice show up a year later or so? That might be a reason, that they simply had a new monster to use instead.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:33 am
by magicchiz
Yes I am speaking of the new Cyclops costume. I cant remember for the life of me if the frankenstien was being used or not. I only seen pictures of it. Does anybody here know when it was used and what song it showed up in? It seems interesting that it was never seen again.
Magicchiz

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:46 am
by A_MichaelUK
From magicchiz:
"Does anybody here know when it was used and what song it showed up in?"

It appeared in "Feed My Frankenstein" on the 2010 leg of the "Theatre Of Death" tour.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:19 pm
by patrick
if Alice could make the cyclops move as natural as the Frankenstein, he problably would not hesitate to use it again..;

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:51 am
by evil syd
I would love the Cyclops back......an ode to Ray Harryhausen, who just passed away not too long ago.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:51 pm
by alicebackstage
The "new" Cyclops came along as an attempt to bring it back, but the suit was difficult to maneuver and was constantly breaking and impossible to move in. In the old days the cyclops was able to lift Alice, which would be impossible in the new suit. The Frankenstein came about shortly afterwards when Distortions Ltd contacted us about their show Making Monsters. They offered to create a prop for Alice, as they had done in the past, and feature the prop and process on the show. SO, that's why they came about around the same time. Though when the cyclops was ditched we hadn't yet planned on something to replace it. Frank just worked out timing wise! I will say the Frankenstein is SO much easier to maneuver and see out of. Plus if you weren't careful in the cyclops you could easily suffocate.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:21 am
by mestreech
I love both the cyclops and Frankenstein but i would love to get a new monster and a new show.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:42 am
by mr.barlow
The best monster Alice ever had on stage was himself on the Special Forces tour. It was--and still is--the most shocking and frightening creation in the history of Alice Cooper.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:56 pm
by mestreech
mr.barlow wrote:The best monster Alice ever had on stage was himself on the Special Forces tour. It was--and still is--the most shocking and frightening creation in the history of Alice Cooper.

I agree 100%

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:16 pm
by Keith1980
Id like to see the magic screen used again and again and again lol. That thing was awesome!!!

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:21 pm
by Si
Keith1980 wrote:Id like to see the magic screen used again and again and again lol. That thing was awesome!!!
There was talk of bring back the screen a few years ago.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:31 pm
by Keith1980
Si wrote:
Keith1980 wrote:Id like to see the magic screen used again and again and again lol. That thing was awesome!!!
There was talk of bring back the screen a few years ago.
No matter how many times i watch nightmare it is still the biggest highlight for me those screens were a great idea

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:35 pm
by pitkin88
Si wrote:
Keith1980 wrote:Id like to see the magic screen used again and again and again lol. That thing was awesome!!!
There was talk of bring back the screen a few years ago.

I don't think this will happen, at least in the US, where he often plays small venues. There wouldn't be much room for it. It could work great in a festival setting especially with the technology of today.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:46 pm
by Si
pitkin88 wrote:
Si wrote:
Keith1980 wrote:Id like to see the magic screen used again and again and again lol. That thing was awesome!!!
There was talk of bring back the screen a few years ago.

I don't think this will happen, at least in the US, where he often plays small venues. There wouldn't be much room for it.
That's a valid point. I'm sure most of the stages would be big enough for the actual screen, but with smaller stages there may not be the space in front of the screen (stage depth) to make it work effectively.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:54 am
by A_MichaelUK
From pitkin88:
"It could work great in a festival setting especially with the technology of today."

Actually, that isn't correct. In outdoor venues, there is no guarantee you will be able to place it in exactly the right position and also there may be issues with natural light as well.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:30 am
by killer wolf
they used it at Whitley Bay on the HS tour and it looked awesome, that's not the world's biggest venue.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:38 pm
by pitkin88
A_MichaelUK wrote:From pitkin88:
"It could work great in a festival setting especially with the technology of today."

Actually, that isn't correct. In outdoor venues, there is no guarantee you will be able to place it in exactly the right position and also there may be issues with natural light as well.

I did say could.

Re: Why wasnt the cyclops used more?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:19 pm
by A_MichaelUK
From pitkin88:
"I did say could."

Unfortunately, that isn't what the people that put Alice's shows together said.