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About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by sumorider » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:31 am

I heard that "Stolen Prayer" "Unholy War" were both originally written by Chris Cornell for Ozzy Osbourne and
instead they ended up being recorded by Alice Cooper.
Is it true?

I would like to know further detail.
So I'm glad somebody tell me how Alice, not Ozzy, sang these songs.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by A_MichaelUK » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:35 am

From sumorider:
>"Is it true?"

I don't know but it's possible. Both Alice and Ozzy were on the same label at the time and songs can get passed around.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by sumorider » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:29 am

To A_MichaelUK:

Thank you for the explanation.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by While Heaven Wept » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:27 pm

here's a demo of Stolen Prayer by Chris Cornell incase you've never heard it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FziuAuPWUnw

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by While Heaven Wept » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:28 pm

it certainly sounds more of an Ozzy song by the way that Cornell sings it

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by sumorider » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:53 pm

To While Heaven Wept:

Thank you for your kind reply.

I really love "Stolen Prayer" "Unholy War",
but I don't quite understand why Alice chose the songs written for Ozzy.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by Lucius Morthem » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:28 pm

As an Ozzy fan I can tell you that during those years he was struggling with lots of different things. He was semi-retired then got back to record an album. The album he did with Producer X (Can't remember who and It's not important now) was ditched away, Ozzy hated it. So he abandoned the whole project and look for a new producer to do a totally different album. It could be that Those song were offered before this happened and then he didn't want them Or maybe Cornell offered those songs before he even considered goin' back to business.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by While Heaven Wept » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:39 pm

sumorider wrote: but I don't quite understand why Alice chose the songs written for Ozzy.
It's very common for songs to be passed around to different bands to try out. Cornell may have written the song with Ozzy in mind and it may have been turned down.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by kevinuk81 » Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:25 pm

I cannot see these songs suiting Ozzy.
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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by TAC » Sun Sep 07, 2014 3:38 pm

While Heaven Wept wrote:
sumorider wrote: but I don't quite understand why Alice chose the songs written for Ozzy.
It's very common for songs to be passed around to different bands to try out. Cornell may have written the song with Ozzy in mind and it may have been turned down.
Alice should've turned them down too IMO. They're the only two songs on TLT that I routinely skip.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by While Heaven Wept » Mon Sep 08, 2014 12:25 pm

That's interesting as I happen to think Stolen Prayer is one of the best songs he's done in the last 30 years.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by mr.barlow » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:44 am

I always figured that these songs were included to bring attention to the album since "grunge" was the music that was ruling the scene at the time and the inclusion of Chris Cornell would bring some attention.

If I remember it right, "Unholy War" was the first single issued (at least to radio stations) prior to the album's release and there was much made about Chris Cornell's participation in both writing and performing on the album.

Both are great songs, however, I always felt that 'Unholy War" didn't really fit the album--it kind of disrupted the flow.

These songs may have been written for Ozzy as we all know he has never had much to do with the writing of any of his songs--even though he always gets songwriting credits, but I think Alice made a good choice in choosing and performing them. They're not incredible but their also not too bad either. Also, the press generated had to help the album--at lesat in some small way.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by dadascot » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:32 pm

I always thought that unholy war suited brutal planet more than TLT. I thought that stolen prayer was on of Alice's best songs!

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by tuneylune » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:58 pm

Love both of these songs, especially "Stolen Prayer"...think Chris's back up vox really compliment Alice's voice. Certainly enjoy "SP" more than "Stand"
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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by While Heaven Wept » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:31 pm

Unholy War isn't one of my favourites but it's not a bad song. Last Temptation really does have some fantastic performances and songwriting on it. I also always really dug the production on that album. It was nice to hear an album which had a genuine 70s feel without hundreds of layers of unnecessary double tracking.

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Re: About Stolen Prayer and Unholy War

Post by recoop » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:32 pm

I like "Stolen Prayer"-"Unholy War" so so..have to agree with WHP's comment re "Genuine 70s feel" - I was so pleased with the sound when it cam out-still play the CD :rock:
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