If 4th street could talk?

pitkin88 · Post by **pitkin88** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:22 am

While Heaven Wept wrote:From what I can remember, it's a pretty forgettable song. I'm sure it'll turn up on a boxset one day.

Just got to hear it thanks to a benign gentlemen here. It is not horrible but it's not really good either. Bit shmaltzy and over produced. It feels like something he could have written in his sleep and wisely it was not placed on an album. The thrill of wanting to hear something is often better than actually hearing it.

Lucius Morthem · Post by **Lucius Morthem** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:46 am

I heard it agsin and I still like it. Of course it's a demo, With a producer on time could have made it until the album. It's also a playable song, kind of to medley with Gutter Cats

pitkin88 · Post by **pitkin88** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:52 am

Lucius Morthem wrote:I heard it agsin and I still like it. Of course it's a demo, With a producer on time could have made it until the album. It's also a playable song, kind of to medley with Gutter Cats

Is it a demo? It sound pretty finished to me.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:36 am

Lucius Morthem wrote:I heard it agsin and I still like it. Of course it's a demo, With a producer on time could have made it until the album. It's also a playable song, kind of to medley with Gutter Cats

At least you have got to hear it , many of us out here cannot say the same as we have not ! Time to help others out I think ?

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:52 am

It's definitely in demo form, same as Chemical Reaction.

schinkengott · Post by **schinkengott** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:26 pm

Also heard it thanks to a kind user, of this was really recorded for Hey Stoopid, that made The right decision not to include it. IMO it wouldn't have fit The album's flow

Lucius Morthem · Post by **Lucius Morthem** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:01 pm

Ohhh yeah It was DEFINETELYa a demo !

Devon · Post by **Devon** » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:57 pm

This kind of goes back to a discussion from a few months ago on this board regarding unreleased material. I think people would generally be disappointed in "unreleased songs" that were cut from respective their albums. There is, after all, a reason they didn't make it.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:59 pm

Devon wrote:This kind of goes back to a discussion from a few months ago on this board regarding unreleased material. I think people would generally be disappointed in "unreleased songs" that were cut from respective their albums. There is, after all, a reason they didn't make it.

Has the precident not been set already though? By this I mean some of the material on the two box sets.

We probably agree though that this kind of material only has appeal to a smaller part of the fan base whilst possibly disjointing things for more casual followers.

pitkin88 · Post by **pitkin88** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:51 pm

Devon wrote:This kind of goes back to a discussion from a few months ago on this board regarding unreleased material. I think people would generally be disappointed in "unreleased songs" that were cut from respective their albums. There is, after all, a reason they didn't make it.

Well there is a demand and they also help with the sales of re issues. Under The Bed is a great example of a top class song not making an album.

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:10 pm

>Has the precident not been set already though? By this I mean some of the material on the two box sets.

That is slightly different though in that by releasing them that way, they aren't part of the albums they were intended for. Also, if you're referring to "Old School" as one of "the two box sets", there are no previously unreleased songs on there.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:50 pm

Yes, I was referring to Old School as one of the sets Andy. Some of the content, I'd say, is definitely in the 'obscure' category.

Personally, I enjoyed listening to it but it may not have been to everyone's liking.

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:20 am

>Some of the content, I'd say, is definitely in the 'obscure' category.

Again, that's different to the song we're discussing. None of those songs were left off albums.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:17 am

Nope, you're correct.

The demo for He's Back from the L&CoAC is a better example.

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:09 pm

>The demo for He's Back from the L&CoAC is a better example.

No, I think that ended up as "Trick Bag" on "Constrictor". I think "Call It Evil" would be more appropriate.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:25 am

I think the 'He's Back' example is a good one as essentially the same song was provided twice in a row on that boxset. Great for fans interested in rarer material but perhaps not so appealing to a more casual fan (who this boxset may have appealed to more than Old School).

I accept that the 'Trick Bag' version of He's Back sounded like a complete track, unlike the demo that this thread is about though.

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:47 am

>I think the 'He's Back' example is a good one

If you say so but the thread is actually about a song that has never been released in any form.

jettrainfan · Post by **jettrainfan** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:58 pm

With all honesty after giving it a couple days of listening, its not that bad of a song, but it wouldn't really fit Hey Stoopid as said by others. The tune itself reminded me of "From The Inside" album thanks to the piano but I think the song's meaning would be perfect for the "Trash" album.

Swinger · Post by **Swinger** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:50 pm

I'd also love to have it if anyone could care to PM me.

E_maniac · Post by **E_maniac** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:42 pm

How did i miss this!?!?
Dont suppose anybody out there is still kind enough to help a alice cooper fan out are they? would love to hear this.
Will we ever get to hear the left off tracks for all these albums do you think?
The last temptation ones always interested me the most (being one of his best albums in my opinion)

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