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Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by Paulimo » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:28 pm

ALICE COOPER - USA ALBUM SALES





Note: Things that are not included below:



* bootlegs and/or counterfeit releases

* promotion-only and/or giveaway-only releases

* interview-only and/or spoken word-only albums unless they have been released by ALICE COOPER's record company or specifically licensed by them

* 'Various Artists' and Collaboration releases

* EP or Mini-Album releases (album must contain at least 7 ALICE COOOPER tracks or at least 30 minutes of ALICE COOPER music)

* Export Sales: albums made in USA but shipped overseas to be sold in other countries





Album titles that are underlined are those that are nearing or awaiting an RIAA award, or an award upgrade





Yr.....Chart...Last Cert....Album Title...................................RIAA Award....Album Sales....Comments/Notes

Rel...Peak....by RIAA



1969....193....none....Pretties For You.........................................................250,000.....

1970....-----....none....Easy Action................................................................225,000.....

1971....035....2001....Love It To Death...............................Platinum........1,100,000.....

1971....021....1986....Killer..................................................Platinum........1,600,000.....

1972....002....1990....School's Out......................................Platinum........1,300,000.....

1973....001....1986....Billion Dollar Babies..........................Platinum........1,700,000.....115k-SScanAug05

1973....010....1973....Muscle Of Love.................................Gold..................775,000.....

1974....008....1986....Greatest Hits.....................................Platinum.........2,000,000.....456k-SScanJan02 (18k-digital-SScanJun12)

1975....005....1990....Welcome To My Nightmare..............Platinum.........1,600,000.....12k (remaster edition)-SScanAug04

1976....027....1976....Alice Cooper Goes To Hell...............Gold...................800,000.....

1977....042....none....Lace And Whiskey......................................................400,000.....

1977....131....none....The Alice Cooper Show..............................................200,000.....

1978....060....none....From The Inside..........................................................300,000.....

1980....044....none....Flush The Fashion......................................................400,000.....cert 50k in Canada in 1982

1981....125....none....Special Forces............................................................185,000.....

1982....-----....none....Toronto Rock 'N Roll Revival 1969...............................10,000.....Accord SN-7162, deleted mid-80's

1982....-----....none....Zipper Catches Skin....................................................135,000.....

1983....-----....none....DaDa...........................................................................135,000.....

1986....059....none....Constrictor...................................................................400,000.....cert 50k in Canada in 1987

1987....073....none....Raise Your Fist And Yell.............................................325,000.....cert 50k in Canada in 1988

1987....-----....none....A Man Called Alice........................................................40,000.....Pair PDL2-1183, deleted early 90's

1989....020....1990....Trash..................................................Platinum........1,250,000.....203k-SScanJan02

1989....-----....none....The Beast Of Alice Cooper.........................................100,000.....Warner-41781

1989....-----....none....Prince Of Darkness.....................................................100,000.....Mca-42315

1991....047....2007....Hey Stoopid.................................................................500,000.....348k-SScanJan02

1992....-----....none....Live At The Whisky A-Go-Go 1969...............................20,000.....Rhino-70369

1994....068....none....The Last Temptation...................................................150,000.....107k-SScanJan02

1995....-----....none....Classicks.....................................................................300,000.....238k-SScanJan02

1997....-----....none....A Fistful Of Alice............................................................90,000.....61k-SScanDec01, Guardian

1998....-----....none....A Nice Nightmare..........................................................35,000.....Sony Special Products A-28517

1999....-----....none....Life And Crimes Of Alice Cooper..................................55,000.....36k-SScanDec03, 4-disc multiplier, Rhino

1999....-----....none....Super Hits.....................................................................75,000.....SBME Special Markets-705364

2000....193....none....Brutal Planet.................................................................90,000.....62k-SScanSep04

2001....-----....none....Mascara & Monsters: Best Of.....................................170,000.....Rhino-75806

2001....-----....none....Alice Cooper Live: Toronto 1969..................................10,000.....Laserlight-21773

2001....197....none....Dragontown..................................................................60,000.....34k-SScanOct02 + 2k-Oct02 ('02re)

2002....-----....none....The Essentials..............................................................60,000.....Rhino

2003....184....none....The Eyes Of Alice Cooper............................................50,000.....28k-SScanAug04

2004....-----....none....School's Out And Other Hits.........................................40,000.....Rhino Flashback-78997

2005....169....none....Dirty Diamonds.............................................................50,000.....6.5k-SScanAug05w-1, New West-6078

2007....-----....none....Extended Versions........................................................30,000.....SBME Special Markets-706152

2008....053....none....Along Came A Spider....................................................40,000.....18k-SScanAug08, STMH

2009....-----....none....Triple Feature..................................................................5,000.....Sony A759795, 3cd (Trash/Stoopid/Temptation pack)

2011....-----....none....Old School: 1964-1974..................................................10,000.....Bigger Picture/Ume, 4cds +dvd

2011....022....none....Welcome 2 My Nightmare.............................................75,000.....28k-SScanOct11

2012....-----....none....Playlist: Very Best Of Alice Cooper...............................10,000.....Sony-195405

2012....-----....none....No More Mr Nice Guy Live..............................................8,000.....4 Worlds Media-135779, 2cds

2013....-----....none....Original Album Series Box..............................................2,000......Rhino-522056, 5cds

+ domestic US sales of foreign-pressed albums...........................................360,000



TOTAL US ALBUM SALES.....................................................................17,625,000

Total Soundscan-registered album sales (1991 - Dec 2005) = 3,000,000







RIAA album Certification data as of Aug 1, 2013:



2....Gold...................1,000,000 disc units...........1,000,000 albums

7....Platinum.............7,000,000 disc units...........7,000,000 albums

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9...............................8,000,000 disc units...........8,000,000 albums

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by RemarkablyInsincere » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:42 pm

What's your source for these numbers?
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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by patrick » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:40 pm

has anyone (Andy ?) any idea about the album sales in Europe ?
(remarkable to see the number of albums for W2MNM2 ..certainly if you compare them to the big shot albums way back..)
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:15 pm

>What's your source for these numbers?

I was wondering the same thing.

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:16 pm

>has anyone (Andy ?) any idea about the album sales in Europe ?

I could only guess.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by cooperrocks » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:39 pm

I am curious about the source too. Normally I would dismiss that type of information (no disrespect intended to the original poster) unless it came from an insider, but what is interesting is most of the numbers look quite conceivable.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by darkmenace » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:58 am

A lot of the numbers are rounded up and down quite significantly, it's obvious that albums don't sell exactly 500,000 copies or 300,000 copies. But why round them off at all, which begs the question where the numbers come from.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if it were true that albums like Zipper and Dada sold 135,000 copies with no promotion, especially Dada. I thought they slipped under the radar more than that.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:14 am

>I'd be pleasantly surprised if it were true that albums like Zipper and Dada sold 135,000 copies with no promotion, especially Dada.

You may be forgetting the fact that they have had thirty years and thirty - one years respectively, to reach those numbers, though.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by scotty » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:25 am

how much more could they have sold after it's initial release though? he plays nothing from either,there were no videos or tours from either,and they were not easy to find for a long time,until things like e bay and amazon came into existence,and even then the folks that might have wanted it already had it.This whole thread is one big hypothetical/subjective/rounded up and down mess,with good intentions of course.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:10 am

>how much more could they have sold after it's initial release though?

You are missing the point. A lot of albums sell in very small amounts of a long period of time and that is clearly what has happened here. I assume you don't think those albums sold in those figures at the time that they were released.

> were not easy to find for a long time,until things like e bay and amazon came into existence,

None of that means that those figures are unreasonable and besides those outles would have not counted as official figures representing sales.

>and even then the folks that might have wanted it already had it.

What about the people that later bought the albums on compact disc though? It all adds up if you think about it. Divide the numbers by the number of years and it might make more sense.

>This whole thread is one big hypothetical/subjective/rounded up and down mess,with good intentions of course.

I don't necessarily believe the figures are accurate until we're told how they were arrived at. I think the figure for "Trash" is somewhat on the low side, for example, but the figures for the two albums under discussion don't seem unreasonable.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by Paulimo » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:33 pm

Hiya.

I'm the OP. The figures are accurately sourced from Soundscan via a friend who does legal stuff in the 'industry.' This is not covert stuff, just statistics available to people who have the luxury of free subscriptions to this kind of stuff.

I'm surprised that Andrew Michael didn't have access to this stuff already.

Just trying to stir up discussion on a forum guys. Don't shoot the messenger.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:03 pm

> The figures are accurately sourced from Soundscan via a friend who does legal stuff in the 'industry.'

I suspected as much all though the reference to the "RIAA" was slightly misleading in that they certify albums with a particular sales figure rather than verify it. They do however deal with the number of units shipped (not sold), however.

> This is not covert stuff,

I don't think anyone suggested it was. I still maintain the figures for "Trash" are a little low but that's a different issue.

>I'm surprised that Andrew Michael didn't have access to this stuff already.

How do you know I don't and how do you know I have the time to go through it all in detail?

>Don't shoot the messenger.

Nobody, as far as I can see, is doing that.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by darkmenace » Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:12 am

Paulimo, thanks for sharing. Do you have any idea why they round off sales so liberally? For example actual sales would be something like 486,705 or 546,232 instead of 500,000. Are they saying its an inexact science and they aren't sure of the actual numbers so these are ballpark estimates?

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:05 am

>For example actual sales would be something like 486,705 or 546,232 instead of 500,000. Are they saying its an inexact science and they aren't sure of the actual numbers so these are ballpark estimates?

Exactly. If each unit is monitored, then the figures should be more precise.

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by wind_up_toy » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:57 pm

Possibly a silly question but what counts as a sale? Is it where an album exchanges hands between the warehouse and the store or the store and the customer?
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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:00 pm

>Is it where an album exchanges hands between the warehouse and the store

That is a shipment.

>or the store and the customer?

Yes.

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Post by wind_up_toy » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:17 pm

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by Devon » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:35 pm

Couple of observations...

Old School Box Set sales, if accurate, is VERY impressive all things considered.

Also, looks like "Greatest Hits" is due for double certification and "Hey Stoopid" is up for Gold. Up to the record companies to have them certified of course.

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Post by Seriously » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:43 pm

[quote="Devon"]Couple of observations...

Old School Box Set sales, if accurate, is VERY impressive all things considered.

Couldn't afford this at the time of release, hope it could happen again, although I would doubt it would be - wasn't it a limited edition?

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Re: Alice Cooper album sales, USA

Post by A_MichaelUK » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:03 pm

>Couldn't afford this at the time of release, hope it could happen again, although I would doubt it would be

There is 'stripped - down' version available.

> - wasn't it a limited edition?

Yes, although it seems more were manufactured to meet the demand.

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