Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

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Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:50 pm

Been thinking ...there are direct references to AC in songs like They Might be Giants "Why must I be sad" (see/hear you tube) and on video from memory with S Tyler having an Alice look at end of "Living on the Edge" plus Adam Ant - "Prince Charming"-now us Alice fans can perhaps see references even where there are none-When the Stones brought out "Its only RnR" with its lyric about-stick a knife in my heart/suicide right on stage with sailor costumes I would say that the lyrics, sailor costumes and make up were strong nods to AC- what do you think?

Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by patrick » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:35 pm

I remember back in 76 an lp by Roderick Falconer (New Nation) : I bought it because the advertisement said it was something between Alice Cooper and David Bowie.
Songs like Public Enemy or Baby Doll made this suggestion even stronger.
somewhere in the lyrics there's even talk about million dollar babies..
always wondered if this was by coïncidence or not.
Never heard about this guy later on.
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:55 pm

Interesting Patrick..if you look up wiki for Roderick Taylor, you will find I think that he is also a writer for movies etc going under name of Roderick Taylor or Rod Taylor-believe same guy
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by scotty » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:50 pm

recently posted here-ray stevens, "the midnight special" video.

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Post by recoop » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:58 pm

Yeah-good one Scotty- I forgot about that and I was the one that posted it..lol :)
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by Lucius Morthem » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:30 pm

Marilyn Manson's Antichrist Superstar also may have a lil nod to Alice, Even Alice commented about it years ago

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:37 pm

>Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?

"Scared" by Dangerous Toys and (I don't know if this counts for the purposes of this thread) in the film "Celebrity" there is a reference to the effect of "the rock star upstairs with the snakes". Also, there's "Earache My Eye" by Cheech And Chong and "Spitting Image" did a parody of Kenneth Clark in the style of "School's Out".

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:48 pm

Forgot about Cheech and Chong...will check out "Scared" by DT- If Celebrity is the Woody Allen film, Woody has form of course in Annie Hall for joking, something like, six people taken to hospital with bad vibes at an Alice Cooper concert(will have to look up exact quote)
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:09 pm

>If Celebrity is the Woody Allen film,

Yes.

>Woody has form of course in Annie Hall for joking, something like, six people taken to hospital with bad vibes at an Alice Cooper concert(will have to look up exact quote)

Yes and according to James Randi, Alice was an extra in "Sleeper" although I don't think that's ever been confirmed.

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:23 pm

I will have to check out Sleeper again- I am a fan of Woody's films expecially early ones-just watched bbc docu on his career-think 2nd part on tonight- and obviously will check out Celebrity- watched Dangerous Toys video and read lyrics-I should have picked up on this one before-ta for pointing out
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:47 pm

>I am a fan of Woody's films expecially early ones-

He and Alice knew each other a little at one point in the seventies (Alice and I often try to quiz each other with lines from the films). Alice does a great Allen impression.

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:54 pm

>Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?

I think Madonna was executed by electric chair during one of her tours (the singer in the band, Disturbed as well, I think).

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:31 pm

The quiz with Alice sounds fun- I can believe he does a great Woody Allen impression as he seems good at taking off the voices of many people-I wonder whether Alice recorded Clones as some kind of reference to Sleepers film-I think a lot of celebrities in USA in 70s could see the humour/vaudeville and various other aspects of Alice- when perhaps the fans wanted more of the linear rock star as such- his influence definitely lives on even if some of those influenced might not acknowledge it or admit it- as for Madonna, I can now recall this and this is a straight lift from Alice's act and a compliment imo
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:23 am

>Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?

I am almost certain that Paul McCartney said that "Silly Love Songs" was inspired by "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and if you think about it, there is a connection).

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:25 am

>Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?

I am almost certain that Paul McCartney said that "Silly Love Songs" was inspired by "No More Mr. Nice Guy" (and if you think about it, there is a connection).

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by scotty » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:50 am

Britney spears singing with a snake....

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by recoop » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:04 pm

OK, i've thought about it Andy-the connection between NMMNG and Silly Love Song-is the connection that they are both responding to comments/criticism from reporters-macca for writing sentimental songs-Alice for well being Alice on stage???....correct/incorrect?
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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:42 pm

>is the connection that they are both responding to comments/criticism from reporters-macca for writing sentimental songs-Alice for well being Alice on stage???

Yes.

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by cooperrocks » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:19 pm

Andy is right, "Scared" by Dangerous Toys (that entire album is great by the way) has tons of Alice references such as "Lace and Whiskey on the top shelf" and if I recall the album jacket says "dedicated to Alice Cooper" and at the beginning of the video if you look closely you can briefly see the Raise Your Fist and Yell album in the background (haven't seen the video in ages, need to look it up on You Tube.)

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Re: Acknowledgement of Alice in songs/videos

Post by A_MichaelUK » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:11 pm

>Are there any non obvious references/nods to AC that you hear/see?

The image of the singer in Turbonegro was very influenced by Alice Cooper if that counts. There was a band (and there is a record company) called Halo Of Flies as well.

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