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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by While Heaven Wept » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:48 am

Gunner wrote: I could go on and on and on and on and on....................
Please don't

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:53 pm

>I could go on and on and on and on and on....................

It seems some people don't quite understand the concept that some songs literally cannot be performed because they either will not work in a live setting or are simply too obscure.

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by Spot and Jerome » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Hearing WISH YOU WERE HERE live would make me a really happy man!
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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by AlongCameASpider27 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:35 pm

My selections:

ANYTHING FROM RYFAY but particularly, the Trilogy, Freedom, Prince of Darkness, or Time to Kill

*Hell is Living Without You

*Might as Well Be On Mars

*Cold Machines

*Scarlet and Sheba

*No Man's Land

*Something to Remember Me By

*Dragontown (in its entirety)

*Spirits Rebellious

*Zombie Dance

*I Gotta Get Outta Here
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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by patrick » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:31 pm

A_MichaelUK wrote:>I could go on and on and on and on and on....................

It seems some people don't quite understand the concept that some songs literally cannot be performed because they either will not work in a live setting or are simply too obscure.
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How You Gonna See Me Now might be such an example: can hardly be called an obscure song ( every year in local top 100 one of the highest rankings for AC) , but probably not easy to fit in a live setting.
you really wouldn't understand..

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by sumorider » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:49 pm

Second Coming
Anything from Dada
Heart Hearted Alice
Never Been Sold Before
Wake Me Gently
Hurricane Years
Stolen Prayer
Lullaby
Six Hours
The Saga Of Jesse Jane

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by GNDM » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:56 pm

....and AGAIN...and AGAIN....and AGAIN. The chant of:"Alice performs the same songs over and over." lol

Please!!! PLEASE!!!! Just for one tour, I want to see the current band perform nothing but current songs and some relatively unknown songs from past albums...skipping the Schools Out, Eighteen, Nice Guy hits. Just one tour...and it will be his last...because no one will book a show of his ever again. *Not to mention that many, many fans who attend these shows will walk out P.O. to the max.

:rotfl:

PS....you don't want to damage the 'entity'. :grin:

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by dom dome » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:13 pm

SickThings wrote:
dom dome wrote: FROM THE INSIDE
(orginal album version,not the live version which doesnt sound as heavy as Alice changed the versions of all the songs from this album when playing them live since 79 making them sound a little more uptempo and pop than metal and he needs to change them all back. If somethings not broken,dont try to fix it).
Since when was "From The Inside" "metal"???

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What I do is increase the bass and treble to max, and for a different effect I decrease the pitch of my cd player to negative 8% to make it sound a bit slower, blast the volume and BAM, I SWEAR From the inside cd sounds like heavy metal, big bass,guitar and pounding drums with Cooper's vocals at his most sinister.Far metal than the change that was made to those songs when playing them live since 79.
A_MichaelUK wrote:It seems some people don't quite understand the concept that some songs literally cannot be performed because they either will not work in a live setting or are simply too obscure.
But the live dvds and cds keep on having the same line up of No more mr.nice guy,Under my wheels,Only women bleed,Poison,Im eighteen,Billion dollar babies,I love the dead,Dead babies,Ballad of Dwight fry,etc. How about Hallowed be my name,The quiet room, Long way to go, Second coming, Luney tune, Black juju,Yeah yeah yeah, Didnt we meet, Public animal 9, Raped and freezin, Still no air.
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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by frontrowjunkie » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:46 pm

dom dome wrote:
SickThings wrote:
dom dome wrote: FROM THE INSIDE
(orginal album version,not the live version which doesnt sound as heavy as Alice changed the versions of all the songs from this album when playing them live since 79 making them sound a little more uptempo and pop than metal and he needs to change them all back. If somethings not broken,dont try to fix it).
Since when was "From The Inside" "metal"???

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What I do is increase the bass and treble to max, and for a different effect I decrease the pitch of my cd player to negative 8% to make it sound a bit slower, blast the volume and BAM, I SWEAR From the inside cd sounds like heavy metal, big bass,guitar and pounding drums with Cooper's vocals at his most sinister.Far metal than the change that was made to those songs when playing them live since 79.
So you change your sound settings to make it sound "metal"? Fair enough, if you like it better that way. But how can you expect Alice to do the same when he plays those songs live? Apart from that, IMHO the changes made to the songs when performed live since the album came out are rather minimal compared to the adjustments you describe.

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by frontrowjunkie » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:56 pm

dom dome wrote:
A_MichaelUK wrote:It seems some people don't quite understand the concept that some songs literally cannot be performed because they either will not work in a live setting or are simply too obscure.
But the live dvds and cds keep on having the same line up of No more mr.nice guy,Under my wheels,Only women bleed,Poison,Im eighteen,Billion dollar babies,I love the dead,Dead babies,Ballad of Dwight fry,etc. How about Hallowed be my name,The quiet room, Long way to go, Second coming, Luney tune, Black juju,Yeah yeah yeah, Didnt we meet, Public animal 9, Raped and freezin, Still no air.
Of course they do! Because these are the songs that the average concert goer or dvd buyer would expect to be there. As Alice has pointed out on several occasions, these are the songs he HAS to play because people expect him to. I go to see a lot of his concerts and I don't mind he plays those songs over and over again. On the contrary, I'd be disappointed if he left out, let's say, I'm Eighteen.

BTW, when I go to see other bands (which I rarely do), I also expect them to play their better-known songs and get quickly bored if they mostly do songs their hardcore fans might love but I've never heard of.

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Post by pitkin88 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:45 pm

GNDM wrote:....and AGAIN...and AGAIN....and AGAIN. The chant of:"Alice performs the same songs over and over." lol

Please!!! PLEASE!!!! Just for one tour, I want to see the current band perform nothing but current songs and some relatively unknown songs from past albums...skipping the Schools Out, Eighteen, Nice Guy hits. Just one tour...and it will be his last...because no one will book a show of his ever again. *Not to mention that many, many fans who attend these shows will walk out P.O. to the max.

:rotfl:

PS....you don't want to damage the 'entity'. :grin:

While I know you are taking things to the extreme I really doubt Alice's career would be over if he played most of WTMN2 with 5-6 standards thrown in.

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:30 pm

>While I know you are taking things to the extreme I really doubt Alice's career would be over if he played most of WTMN2 with 5-6 standards thrown in.

That would certainly be a risk though - to play a lot of songs from an album most people aren't familiar with. A lot of promoters might not want to book a show on that basis. Again, for the billionth time and for better or worse, not everyone who goes to a show is a fanatic. In fact, most people at the shows are not. I am not saying that's good, just that that is how it is.

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Post by pitkin88 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:10 am

A_MichaelUK wrote:>While I know you are taking things to the extreme I really doubt Alice's career would be over if he played most of WTMN2 with 5-6 standards thrown in.

That would certainly be a risk though - to play a lot of songs from an album most people aren't familiar with. A lot of promoters might not want to book a show on that basis. Again, for the billionth time and for better or worse, not everyone who goes to a show is a fanatic. In fact, most people at the shows are not. I am not saying that's good, just that that is how it is.

So the promoter knows the set list in advance and confers with the artist what to play? If that's true I had no idea.
I'm guessing the last part of the post was not aimed at me as I have never said that.

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Re: Post songs you want ALICE to play live that he never doe

Post by Gunner » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:03 am

It seems some people don't quite understand the concept that some songs literally cannot be performed because they either will not work in a live setting or are simply too obscure.

It seems to me that some people are unable to reason with statements
; the list is what I WOULD LIKE to hear live, NOT what I expect or demand! The topic thread DOES NOT imply that we choose songs in which we see no reason to play!

As a songwriter and past live vocalist, I am FULLY aware of the idea that some songs are not favoured for live performance.

Having said all that, WE ALL KNOW that there are quite a number that we all want to hear that we don't and see little reason in why we don't........don't we????

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Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:06 am

>So the promoter knows the set list in advance and confers with the artist what to play?

It has been known although not in the kind of detail you are inferring. Why would you assume that would NEVER be the case?

>If that's true I had no idea.

That is the whole problem. There are a lot of things you have "no idea" about but you still adopt certain positions and make certain statements.

>I'm guessing the last part of the post was not aimed at me as I have never said that.

Maybe not, but my statement was a partial explanation as why things are the way they are which is what your post was referring to.

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Post by Gunner » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:15 pm

GNDM wrote:....and AGAIN...and AGAIN....and AGAIN. The chant of:"Alice performs the same songs over and over." lol

Please!!! PLEASE!!!! Just for one tour, I want to see the current band perform nothing but current songs and some relatively unknown songs from past albums...skipping the Schools Out, Eighteen, Nice Guy hits. Just one tour...and it will be his last...because no one will book a show of his ever again. *Not to mention that many, many fans who attend these shows will walk out P.O. to the max.

:rotfl:

PS....you don't want to damage the 'entity'. :grin:
Neal smith or Mike Bruce I think you are! The bitterness and resentment almost comes off my computer monitor!

I would happily attend an Alice show that skipped everything pre 1975 - he's done some superb solo work (in the name of 'the entity' ;) ;) ) I think.

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Post by wind_up_toy » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:10 pm

The way I picture things in my head is that the promoter doesn't usually know the set list but is given an idea of what to expect (e.g. all the hits plus some material from the new album). Alternatively, it's simply a case that by not playing the hits you may alienate yourself and, therefore, not get any future bookings by the same venue / promoter!
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Post by A_MichaelUK » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:40 pm

>Alternatively, it's simply a case that by not playing the hits you may alienate yourself and, therefore, not get any future bookings by the same venue / promoter!

Exactly.

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Post by GNDM » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:15 pm

Gunner wrote:
GNDM wrote:....and AGAIN...and AGAIN....and AGAIN. The chant of:"Alice performs the same songs over and over." lol

Please!!! PLEASE!!!! Just for one tour, I want to see the current band perform nothing but current songs and some relatively unknown songs from past albums...skipping the Schools Out, Eighteen, Nice Guy hits. Just one tour...and it will be his last...because no one will book a show of his ever again. *Not to mention that many, many fans who attend these shows will walk out P.O. to the max.

:rotfl:

PS....you don't want to damage the 'entity'. :grin:
Neal smith or Mike Bruce I think you are! The bitterness and resentment almost comes off my computer monitor!

I would happily attend an Alice show that skipped everything pre 1975 - he's done some superb solo work (in the name of 'the entity' ;) ;) ) I think.
I was not aware that Neal and Michael are bitter. But, I would think, that both would strongly suggest that Alice should continue to perform hits from the original band....unless he is A) Just about ready to stop touring or B) Aiming to do shows only in very small venues. If it is the latter...have him get in touch with me and I will see if I can line up gigs at the Dunes Lounge on W. Dunlap in Phoenix or perhaps at the old VIP club (now called the Cheetah Gentlemens Club on 7th Street and Indian School). The latter you can check out on the internet....Alice might enjoy the other 'talent' performing there. "Earwigs Forever"! Of course the gym and lunchroom at Cortez High is always open to him.

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Post by GailsFriend » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:41 pm

Titanic Overture (with the curtain up)

Nobody Likes Me
Step On You
Ubangi Stomp
Damned If You Do
Ghouls Gone Wild
Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever

and take it a step further...

a series of duets with Lady Gaga for the following songs
What Baby Wants (then they BOTH put on straight jackets and sing the following)
This Maniac's In Love With You
Millie and Billie
Wind Up Toy

(everyone in the crowd gets so angry)

the encores will be...

I'm So Angry
No More Love At Your Convenience
Going Home

Grande Finale (plays while the crowd leaves)
"What part of DEAD don't you get?"

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