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Alice or Ozzy

Post by suziginajackson » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:45 pm

On the 'Planet Rock' page on Facebook, they are currently having the discussion: 'Alice or Ozzy'!
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Desperado22 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:47 pm

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by moonshadow » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:57 pm

Thanks, Seen it and had my say!
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by tuneylune » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:05 pm

Don't do Facebook, but really, no comparison whatsoever. Loved Ozzy's time in Black Sabbath, but never really saw the appeal to his solo career (BLIZZARD OF OZZ notwithstanding) and his continued almost God like status is a mystery to me. Seems like a nice guy though... Alice in group or solo definitely gets the nod!
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Re: Alice greater than Ozzy

Post by danielleV » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:51 pm

First , Ozzy is incredibly ugly.
Second, he has not a voice as rich and beautiful as Alice's.
3rd, exept Iron Man i dont see as much genius songs as Alice has.
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Re: Alice greater than Ozzy

Post by Pitta » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:09 pm

danielleV wrote:First , Ozzy is incredibly ugly.
Second, he has not a voice as rich and beautiful as Alice's.
3rd, exept Iron Man i dont see as much genius songs as Alice has.
IMO Ozzy is a great singer, with great voice. But Alice is the best evil character in rock 'n roll.
Ozzy has great heavy metal songs, but Alice's songs are so different. Heavy metal, hair metal, hard rock, new wave, garage rock, industrial metal etc. And his voice is the best :)
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by danielleV » Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:57 pm

Bravo Pitta. You forget his humour.and his physical presence
And his genius shows so original and unique in the world.
I loved Klaus Nomi too. Same expressionnist singer......
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Re: Alice greater than Ozzy

Post by While Heaven Wept » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:09 pm

danielleV wrote:First , Ozzy is incredibly ugly.
This is a planet rock poll.... not a Teenage girl magazine poll

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Diane D. » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:05 pm

I like both.
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Re: Alice greater than Ozzy

Post by steven_crayn » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:48 pm

danielleV wrote:First , Ozzy is incredibly ugly.
Second, he has not a voice as rich and beautiful as Alice's.
3rd, exept Iron Man i dont see as much genius songs as Alice has.
As has been allured to by While Heaven Wept, what does it matter what Ozzy looks like?
how trite,I would have expected better from an Alice Cooper fan Danielle.

Obviously it's Alice for me, but we shouldn't underestimate Ozzy both with Sabbath and as a solo artist.
Geezer Butler was the main lyricist in Sabbath including for Iron Man, but Ozzy certainly came into his own as a lyric writer on his first two solo albums which are sensational, as good as anything Sabbath did and they were great.
He has a lot of melody in that voice that gets overlooked.

Also as a human being despite some of the bad press he has got from some of the drug/booze related bad things he has done like trying to kill his wife! underneath there is a lot of class to Ozzy.
I know for a fact that when he was looking for a guitarist and asked for demos via Kerrang! magazine, he wrote to everyone who sent them in after Zakk Wylde got the gig, I was one of them and I've still got the signed letter.
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by recoop » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:09 am

The trouble with all of these either/or polls is that it leads to a polarized view where often one of the rivals is criticised/seen negatively. For me, at times both have been top class although my preference is AC.I will have to check out Ozzy's first two solos again by the sound of it. Nice touch re Ozzy writing back to you and others Steven-the stage/public image in rock is often way of beam when compared to the human underneath. I am confident some, not all, dark stories re Ozzy have been exaggerated as they have with AC.
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by HORRORHOLIC » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:37 pm

Alice and Ozzy!!!!! They're tied as my all time favorites.
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Diane D. » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:06 am

danielleV wrote:Bravo Pitta. You forget his humour.and his physical presence
And his genius shows so original and unique in the world.
I loved Klaus Nomi too. Same expressionnist singer......
Oh yeah... Klaus Nomi, interresting choice, Danielle.Famously known for this song. :rotfl:


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Re: Alice greater than Ozzy

Post by Ted Sallis » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:15 am

steven_crayn wrote:Ozzy certainly came into his own as a lyric writer on his first two solo albums...
Actually, the original Bassist in Ozzy's band, Bob Daisley wrote almost all of the lyrics on the 1st 2 Ozzy albums.

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Somwhere In Auckland » Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:15 am

Ozzy has gone through most his career writing next to nothing. All of sabbath iommi / butler most of his solo stuff had a huge number of writers and as mentioned above he wrote hardley nothing of his first 2 solo albums.

He is a voice and frontman thats all ... no songwriting skills.

so for this alice wins easilly.

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by While Heaven Wept » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:49 pm

I have alot of love for Sabbath, but that's more due to the work of Iommi, Butler and Ward. Ozzy's solo career is pretty forgettable.

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Gunner » Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:37 pm

Alice or Ozzy at what exactly??

If it is originality, artistic talent, creativity, intelligence, philosophy, lyric writing, concept writing, stage presence, vocal delivery, ability to appear and sound 'evil', and just general look and presentation then it's Alice hands down. IF however, it is for being very genuine (not that Alice isn't), honest, funny, simple and quite 'cuddly' then Ozzy!

Really, there is no contest from an artistic perspective, none at all!!

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Inmate » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:05 pm

I love Black Sabbath. I also love Ozzy's solo career. Diary Of A Madman is a fantastic album, but Alice will always have the win for me.
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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Diane D. » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:07 pm

Gunner wrote:Alice or Ozzy at what exactly??

If it is originality, artistic talent, creativity, intelligence, philosophy, lyric writing, concept writing, stage presence, vocal delivery, ability to appear and sound 'evil', and just general look and presentation then it's Alice hands down. IF however, it is for being very genuine (not that Alice isn't), honest, funny, simple and quite 'cuddly' then Ozzy!

Really, there is no contest from an artistic perspective, none at all!!
Cuddly... :rotfl:

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Re: Alice or Ozzy

Post by Desperado22 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:10 pm

I'm a huge fan of Black Sabbath and Ozzy. Alice wins though.
Nobody comes close to Alice imo.
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