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Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:21 pm
by Gunner
What's 'the score' with these unofficial DVDs? Si? Andy?
[Link removed as question has been answered below, they are pirated DVD's]
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:27 pm
by A_MichaelUK
>What's 'the score' with these unofficial DVDs?
All are illegal releases except, ironically, for the last one which they don't seem to realise is legal (or appears to be).
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:56 am
by Nick
I'm not going to pretend I don't watch bootlegs or seek them out sometimes, but I was wondering how sites like the one listed above can get away with openly selling bootlegs without getting into trouble?
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:54 am
by Gunner
>>All are illegal releases except, ironically, for the last one which they don't seem to realise is legal (or appears to be).
Thanks Andy, as I thought, I just wanted to check wit you.
>>I'm not going to pretend I don't watch bootlegs or seek them out sometimes, but I was wondering how sites like the one listed above can get away with openly selling bootlegs without getting into trouble?
Exactly what I was thinking Nick.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 am
by pitkin88
Cos its hardly worth going after them.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:48 am
by Nick
pitkin88 wrote:Cos its hardly worth going after them.
Why though? I'm genuinely curious. How hard can it be to shut them down? Especially when they appear to be selling copies of Trashes The World which is copyrighted?
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:03 am
by Si
They are ALL copyrighted.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:53 am
by Nick
Si wrote:They are ALL copyrighted.
Yes, true, I guess I meant TTW is an official release and a label already distributes it. Someone selling copies of it would be no different to me starting a site and selling copies of a movie, and I think I think I'd rightfully get my ass kicked for that.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:55 am
by A_MichaelUK
>but I was wondering how sites like the one listed above can get away with
Some probably don't escape prosecution or being shut down but it can take some effort to enforce the law.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:55 pm
by pitkin88
Nick wrote:pitkin88 wrote:Cos its hardly worth going after them.
Why though? I'm genuinely curious. How hard can it be to shut them down? Especially when they appear to be selling copies of Trashes The World which is copyrighted?
Cost and time. Is it worth it for some dvds that are hardly eating into Alice's profits?
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:07 pm
by Si
It wouldn`t be Alice and co. as such, but the record companies that own the rights to the material, and they have legal departments who's sole job is to do this. Just depends on whether they spot the site and decide it's worth it.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:10 pm
by A_MichaelUK
>hardly eating into Alice's profits?
It's not just about him though. What about the writers of the songs that are being performed or the musicians that are performing those songs? They're not being paid. We can be almost certain that the bootleggers are not sharing their own "profits".
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:00 am
by Toronto Bob
Didn't see the links but are these pirated discs or are they bootlegs. There is a difference both legally and morally.
Re: Unofficial DVDs
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:11 am
by Si
Toronto Bob wrote:Didn't see the links but are these pirated discs or are they bootlegs. There is a difference both legally and morally.
Both. If I remember there were some TV broadcasts (technically bootlegs) and some officially released material like "Trashes The World" and AC & Friends" etc.
I personally agree there is a difference bootlegs and piarating, but when you are selling them, not trading, both the difference is lessened.