GailsFriend wrote:Then complain to Alice, if you're dissatisfied with his work.
If I like it, so what?
No idea what you are talking about. Feel free to carry on liking Alice.
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GailsFriend wrote:Then complain to Alice, if you're dissatisfied with his work.
If I like it, so what?
Please refer to the post where I am 'blindly' defending Alice.pitkin88 wrote:You posts are very tiring. The blind defense of everything Alice is just stupid. This was aimed at the person with the silly macho pic.
A_MichaelUK wrote:>It is not being
" lazy " to disloke a song because of certain elements in the song.
To be more accurate, the effect in question isn't an element of the composition. Rather, it's an affect that is added during the recording. So it's possible to like the composition but not the effect.
And that's the flaw with the reasoning. Those people are finding fault with an effect that they don't understand because of their preconceived notion of what AutoTune is and what it does for OTHER artists. However, I think of all of those complaining about it on the net I can count maybe 3 people who actually legitimately felt it altered Alice's voice too much for them.pitkin88 wrote:
No they don't. They just hate thie effect. Vodocoda or not it sounds like auto tune. This horrible effect is associated with A LOT of crap music and some people think it shouldn't be on an Alice Cooper song.
Spot on.Gunner wrote:The effect; it is SO subtle, I don't know what the fuss is about really. Personally, I don't feel it is necessary myself, but it doesn't spoil the track in any shape or form for me. If you notice, the effect is only on the verses that are reflective, and so the effect gives the feeling of a drowsy, hazy memory of how he was when detached from divine inspiration and guidance. With respect to someone's comment about it being about 'slipping back into the nightmare', this concurs with my notion that the only way this track could relate to the rest of the album is by Alice's nightmare of being detached from God again and ending up in hell.
I'm a non christian and I can barely dress my self let alone comprehend complex things like Alice Cooper LyricsGunner wrote: I wonder how many Christian Cooper fans are proud of him, how many non-Christian fans actually understand this, and Alice fans have found his message and responded?
Gunner wrote:The effect; it is SO subtle, I don't know what the fuss is about really. Personally, I don't feel it is necessary myself, but it doesn't spoil the track in any shape or form for me. If you notice, the effect is only on the verses that are reflective, and so the effect gives the feeling of a drowsy, hazy memory of how he was when detached from divine inspiration and guidance. With respect to someone's comment about it being about 'slipping back into the nightmare', this concurs with my notion that the only way this track could relate to the rest of the album is by Alice's nightmare of being detached from God again and ending up in hell. The album is another 'hell album' and the majority of Alice's work since, say, 1994 has been almost 'missionary' to a large extent. I wonder how many Christian Cooper fans are proud of him, how many non-Christian fans actually understand this, and Alice fans have found his message and responded?
I don't want to get into religion here of course (and neither would Si), but if you knew more about Christianity you wouldn't find that notion such a stretch at all, not in the slightest. What I would say is; go, ask a committed Christian if there is a missionary element to Alice Cooper these days - that's all, don't take my word for it. It's what every member of a church is expected to do for starters, so when you have an audiance (some young and rebellious) as he does, it's a perfect medium to work through ("Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms." 1 Peter 4:10).but to say he is some kind of evangelical missionary is a bit of a stretch
True, only a lot of the lyrics that's all.I don't think Alice's personal view of religion changes anything on his music,
Yes, but whilst it is fair to say that he is not a re-born Christian as such, he really returned to the faith in 1994 and joined a church.God has been on his songs even before 1994, anyway.