Alice Show Cycles

tommystooge · Post by **tommystooge** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:09 am

I find that Alice seems to do a lot of things in cycles...

For instance albums seem to come in two's:

Nightmare and Goes To Hell are similar in theme, Constrictor/Raise Your Fist, Brutal Planet/Dragontown, Eyes/Dirty Diamonds

And I find his show's have a cycle, he'll do a big theatrical show and the next tour is less theatrical and more rockin'...Theatre Of Death/No More Mr. Nice Guy for instance...

Reason I bring this up is,,,The Nice Guy tour is more rockin' and less theatrical, so does that mean we can expect a big show for W2MN tour...I certainly hope so...

Somwhere In Auckland · Post by **Somwhere In Auckland** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:17 am

its been said many times that the W2MN tour will be big on theatrics, possibly his biggest tour since the original.

Billie1966 · Post by **Billie1966** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:19 am

Alice.. Bring back the electric chair

Danny~

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:14 am

>I find that Alice seems to do a lot of things in cycles...

In case you want to look into this further (and I recommend you do), I'm pretty sure there is a previous thread on this (and something like eighty - two pages of other threads) which you may find interesting.

tommystooge · Post by **tommystooge** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:33 pm

A_MichaelUK wrote:>I find that Alice seems to do a lot of things in cycles...

In case you want to look into this further (and I recommend you do), I'm pretty sure there is a previous thread on this (and something like eighty - two pages of other threads) which you may find interesting.

I was just using that reference to build up to my point that the N2 show should be Huge !!!!

I loved the TOD set, with A L I C E written across the stage...

btw forget the electric chair...Bring back The Cyclops !!!!!

Holly Grail · Post by **Holly Grail** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:53 pm

I don't need just a huge show but also a killer setlist with at least 4-5 new songs from the new album(of course if they are great)..I mean i wouldn't enjoy a huge show with a "hits setlist".
I know that the tour is gonna be based on the album but it's been a few years since he played more than 2-3 songs on a show from a new album.

Si · Post by Si » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:11 pm

tommystooge wrote: btw forget the electric chair...Bring back The Cyclops !!!!!

The Cyclops was in LAST YEARS SHOW!

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:25 pm

>I was just using that reference to build up to my point that the N2 show should be Huge !!!!

Take the quicker route, if you can. Thanks.

Jumping Jack · Post by **Jumping Jack** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:00 am

I'd be happy if Coop cycled back to playing major US cities again instead of casinos, fair grounds and cow pastures. If a larger show with more overhead forces larger venues to cover costs then it will be a good thing. Sadly, I am not sure he can sell in the US any more which is why he had to warm up Rob Zombie the last year.

Billie1966 · Post by **Billie1966** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:39 am

Jumping Jack wrote:I'd be happy if Coop cycled back to playing major US cities again instead of casinos, fair grounds and cow pastures. If a larger show with more overhead forces larger venues to cover costs then it will be a good thing. Sadly, I am not sure he can sell in the US any more which is why he had to warm up Rob Zombie the last year.

I'm not sure that is correct. I don't believe he "Warmed" up Rob Zombie. I think they both pulled their own crowds.
The tour was a joint venture.

Danny

Si · Post by Si » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:24 am

It was a co-headline tour and both artists had equal time on stage. Jack knows this (or should do).

shock rock · Post by **shock rock** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:52 am

The first leg of the NMMNG tour is done,so now they should try and duplicate the promotion/hype they seem to have in Europe back home in the States.

A_MichaelUK · Post by **A_MichaelUK** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:56 am

>If a larger show with more overhead forces larger venues to cover costs then it will be a good thing.

That makes zero sense. The venue will cover it's own costs only.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:34 pm

I'm sure Alice can still pull good crowds in the US, having said that I was surprised that he again chose the UK for the Halloween shows (not that I'm complaining of course). Maybe he is genuinly bigger here?

The co-headline tours really work for me so have no problem with 2 or 3 bands going in together if it means larger crowds at bigger venues. The Def Leppard / Thin Lizzy shows in Ireland were truly mouthwatering.

WickedYoungMan · Post by **WickedYoungMan** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:46 pm

wind_up_toy wrote:I'm sure Alice can still pull good crowds in the US, having said that I was surprised that he again chose the UK for the Halloween shows (not that I'm complaining of course). Maybe he is genuinly bigger here?

I think that type of a show was a big success, so may be going for a repeat (plus logistically seemed to work out better for the UK shows in the fall since he was doing mainly festival/package shows this summer and was kind of already in the neighborhood with Lizzy/Leppard.) I don't know if it was a measure of anything, especially since that type of program hasn't been tried in the U.S. that I know of.

wind_up_toy · Post by **wind_up_toy** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:51 pm

Yup, I guess the UK is a good country logistically, lots of big cities with minimal travelling time suits a Haloween tour as there's a small shelf life.

criss · Post by **criss** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:16 pm

With the current climate i would say the co headline tours are a win win for the artists and fans alike .

tommystooge · Post by **tommystooge** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:28 pm

Si wrote:
tommystooge wrote: btw forget the electric chair...Bring back The Cyclops !!!!!
The Cyclops was in LAST YEARS SHOW!

YES I KNOW...I meant because it's N2, the cyclops was an important part of the original show, not the electric chair...

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