Nightmare returns Tour question......

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Nightmare returns Tour question......

Post by DaveJay » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:26 am

Hi everyone,
I was re- reading an old (1986) Kerrang magazine recently, which has a feature on the "Nightmare returns" Detroit show.
The writer ( Dave Dickson) quotes lyrics from "Second coming", and mentions that Alice played it as part of the show......
I saw the show several times in the UK , and of course, have the Video....but there is no sign of that track being played, nor do I have any recollection of it being played live during the tour......
Is this just a "Writers" glitch...or am I indeed missing out on something ???
...Just curious.....

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Post by While Heaven Wept » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:30 pm

Yeah i remember reading that, i always assumed he got that song mixed up with Dwight Frye

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Post by Gunner » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:49 pm

Do you think that maybe he is referring to the end of second coming/beginning of Dwight Frye with the girl's voice?

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Re: Nightmare returns Tour question......

Post by glamprincess » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:51 pm

DaveJay wrote: The writer ( Dave Dickson) quotes lyrics from "Second coming", and mentions that Alice played it as part of the show......
I think the writer got it wrong. I saw Alice in the Nightmare Returns show, more than once, and he didn't play Second Coming.

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Post by steven_crayn » Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:37 pm

He didn't play it at the Wembley, Manchester, Newcastle or Birmingham shows I was at.

Pretty sure the writer made a mistake.

What a show that was.
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Post by MacQueen » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:26 pm

Alice never disappoints when he's at Wembley.

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Post by Maurice » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:31 pm

MacQueen wrote:Alice never disappoints when he's at Wembley.
True.

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Post by MacQueen » Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:43 pm

Thanks :grin:

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Post by While Heaven Wept » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:19 pm

Certainly was a fantastic tour. Love or hate the Kane Roberts era - the show was a massive spectacle.

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Post by WickedYoungMan » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:53 pm

Exactly. And it's raw live and powerful, not touched up or any of that stuff. Not to mention a kick ass audience.
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Post by mattcoddington » Wed Oct 08, 2008 10:22 pm

While Heaven Wept wrote:Certainly was a fantastic tour. Love or hate the Kane Roberts era - the show was a massive spectacle.
it would bewilder me if anyone hated anything having to do with kane roberts.

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Post by Evan442 » Wed Oct 08, 2008 11:08 pm

i own an official Kane Roberts t shirt lol. it has the machine gun guitar on the back!
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Post by Shoesalesman » Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:14 am

Kane had his place for sure. :grin:
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Kane Roberts defintly has his place in the archives....

Post by guilty65 » Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:21 am

The Kane Roberts years were slamming!!!
I wish we could see that again. The Constrictor effort was a little soft in areas. Due to production But killed live. IMO
Raise your fist and yell is brilliant. I know some people here do not like that CD/album I thought it was one of Alice's shining moments.
When Ken Mary...(who is a MONSTER btw) again IMO...and Michael Wagner showed up...it was a great chemistry for sure.

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Post by While Heaven Wept » Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:09 am

mattcoddington wrote:
While Heaven Wept wrote:Certainly was a fantastic tour. Love or hate the Kane Roberts era - the show was a massive spectacle.
it would bewilder me if anyone hated anything having to do with kane roberts.
Well i certainly know of many people who don't rate the Kane Roberts era. I liked the 2 albums (moreso RYFAY due to the flat production of Constrictor). But yeah, they were a great live band. Ken Mary and Kane Roberts were pretty talented to say the least!

I would love to see a DVD of the RYFAY tour (if a professionally shot video even exists?).

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Post by Gunner » Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:44 am

Getting back to the topic, I still think the writer got confused about just what song 'Mommy where's daddy?.....' was from.

Anyway, Kane Roberts era; horrible, the show was OK, a bit contrived, a bit 'cartoon', but giving Alice Cooper classics the 'heavy metal' treatment was crass and embarressing. For me, that era 86 - 91 was a mockery of the Alice Cooper concept of the 70's. Give me a 'mindless' yet CREATIVE Alice in Toronto thinking up the Dada concept album ANYDAY!

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Post by Mr. Skull » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:02 pm

Gunner wrote: Kane Roberts era; giving Alice Cooper classics the 'heavy metal' treatment was crass and embarrassing. For me, that era 86 - 91 was a mockery of the Alice Cooper concept of the 70's.
I don't agree on that.
In my humble opinion Dead Babies in the Life in the Flesh tour sounded great !
And Welcome to my nightmare in the earlier Nightmare Returns tour sounded even better then ever before...
Thanks to Arthur Funaro also, again in my opinion of-course..

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Post by Gunner » Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:25 pm

In my humble opinion Dead Babies in the Life in the Flesh tour sounded great !
And Welcome to my nightmare in the earlier Nightmare Returns tour sounded even better then ever before...
Aye, I'll go along with those two actually.

Alice wanted Randy Piper originally for guitar in that era, I think he would have looked more 'Alice', but the whole 'Alice goes WASP' thing made me cringe honestly - especailly when he did that hideous photo shoot of blood and limbs in the bath etc.

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Post by Shoesalesman » Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:44 pm

I like the intro to I'm Eighteen on the video, when he's leaning on the crutch before the first lines of the song. Was a bit metalish, possibly, but good nonetheless.
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Post by mattcoddington » Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:02 pm

live in the flesh = the most underrated stage shows ever.
artie funaro = one of the most underrated guitar players ever.

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