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Post by steven_crayn » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:31 pm

Parish wrote:
glamprincess wrote:
Parish wrote: There have always been two sides to Alice lyrics. The ACG lyrics and Alice solo lyrics. The ACG lyrics were inspired and impeccable. The solo Alice lyrics are
campy with a few shining moments
You think the lyrics to Welcome to My Nightmare were campy?
The campiest!

A GREAT record but that is show-biz-theatrical-camp all the way. I can hardly watch the TV special its just so dated lyrically as well as visually
The TV Special still stands up as do the lyrics from the album, as an example there is nothing camp about a sincere song like

Only Women Bleed

Man got his woman to take his seed
He got the power - oh, she got the need
She spends her life through pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner or anything she can

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Man makes your hair grey, he's your life's mistake
All you're really lookin' for is an even break
He lies right at you, you know you hate this game
He slaps you once in a while and you live and love in pain

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Man got his woman to take his seed
He got the power - oh, she got the need
She spends her life through pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner or anything she can

She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

Black eyes all of the time
Don't spend a dime
Clean up this grime
And you there down on your knees begging me please
Come watch me bleed

Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
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Post by NotSoPerfect » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:05 pm

Owepar wrote:
For me, there's only one truly awful, cringe-worthy Cooper song, and he didn't write it: "Ubangi Stomp."

Ubangi Stomp is a rock and roll
It beats anything that's ever been told
Ubangi Stomp, Ubangi style
When it kicks, it drives a cool cat wild
I gotta admit... a few times a year, if that song comes up in shuffle, I kind of enjoy it. Not saying it's a good song or amazing lyrics, but Alice's voice in it and the overall just kinda makes me laugh...in a good way.
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Post by Maurice » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:32 pm

NotSoPerfect wrote:
I gotta admit... a few times a year, if that song comes up in shuffle, I kind of enjoy it. Not saying it's a good song or amazing lyrics, but Alice's voice in it and the overall just kinda makes me laugh...in a good way.
I know what you mean NSP!

Actually - according to Michael Bruces' book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" the song has a history that goes back to the ACG days when they all lived together. Don't recall the actual detail as written right now - so don't hang me! - but this guy, a 'cowboy' or 'redneck' type, would dance around the place singing a similar lyric, while swigging from a bottle. So, somehow that song idea stayed with Alice for a good few years before he used it, (some would say, 'why did he bother' lol). A bit like 'Sex, Death and Money', a phrase often dropped into interview in the ACG days, but not used as a song until many years later.
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Post by NotSoPerfect » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:37 pm

Maurice wrote: I know what you mean NSP!
Thanks, Maurice! Good to hear someone else occasionally enjoys a spin of "Ubangi Stomp." And actually...I haven't heard it in probably over 6 months....i think I'm gonna have to give it a listen today! :)
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Post by Maurice » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:50 pm

NotSoPerfect wrote:
Thanks, Maurice! Good to hear someone else occasionally enjoys a spin of "Ubangi Stomp." And actually...I haven't heard it in probably over 6 months....i think I'm gonna have to give it a listen today! :)
Don't mention it!

No really DON'T mention it - we are in the minority and may get lynched! lol

Actually, because he sings it in that kind of 'faux-Elvis' style, I imagine there is a 'connection', with him recording the song and meeting Elvis, which I understand he says he has done several times - more than once anyway! :grin:
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Post by NotSoPerfect » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:56 pm

Hey...I also admit to (very much) liking the song "Stand." What's a little "Ubangi Stomp" to go with it? :laugh:
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Post by Maurice » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:08 pm

NotSoPerfect wrote:Hey...I also admit to (very much) liking the song "Stand." What's a little "Ubangi Stomp" to go with it? :laugh:

True....................................

..............I think can just make out the shillouette of a lynch posse on the horizon headed our way! ::((:
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Post by alienspice » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:17 pm

I'll "stand" with you two as well. I'd rather hear 8 ubangi stomps than one dirty dreams. and stand, well-- I listen to that ON PURPOSE. :p
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Post by WickedYoungMan » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:20 pm

Maurice wrote:Actually - according to Michael Bruces' book "No More Mr. Nice Guy" the song has a history that goes back to the ACG days when they all lived together. Don't recall the actual detail as written right now - so don't hang me! - but this guy, a 'cowboy' or 'redneck' type, would dance around the place singing a similar lyric, while swigging from a bottle. So, somehow that song idea stayed with Alice for a good few years before he used it, (some would say, 'why did he bother' lol).
Of course.. Ubangi Stomp is actually a cover song though.
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Post by Shoesalesman » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:45 pm

I'm REALLY surprised Si hasn't piped up yet about his feelings for Ubangi Stomp? :x

I think this is the original...

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Post by NotSoPerfect » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:51 am

alienspice wrote:I'll "stand" with you two as well. I'd rather hear 8 ubangi stomps than one dirty dreams. and stand, well-- I listen to that ON PURPOSE. :p
Oh, heck yes! I'll find Stand on purpose on my iPod or iTunes. And if it comes up randomly or at the end of when I'm listening to DD...well, I turn it up!
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Post by flashfearless » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:52 am

Maurice wrote: I certainly agree that Dada has some impressive lyrical content; possibly because Alice appeared (to me) to be striving hard for a 'direction' at the time?
Oh, come on. Alice even says that he doesn't remember making the record. Is he lying?

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Post by NotSoPerfect » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:54 am

Just because he doesn't remember it NOW doesn't mean he wasn't looking for a direction THEN. All speculation obviously...but what's true now doesn't necessarily negate a previous truth.
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Post by I'm Pain » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:02 am

"You'de gift wrap a leper and mail him to your aunt Jane."

Love "Go To Hell" but this particular line and the vocal delivery makes me roll my eyes a bit.

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Post by Jed Raven » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:03 am

I'm Pain wrote:"You'de gift wrap a leper and mail him to your aunt Jane."

Love "Go To Hell" but this particular line and the vocal delivery makes me roll my eyes a bit.

And I've always found that line to be a prime example of Alice's brand of sick but essentially harmless humour, hard-boiled down into twelve words.

Just goes to show, it's horses for courses...
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Post by Maurice » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:33 am

flashfearless wrote:
Maurice wrote: possibly because Alice appeared (to me) to be striving hard for a 'direction' at the time?
Oh, come on. Alice even says that he doesn't remember making the record. Is he lying?
I really am not at all qualified to suggest if Alice was 'lying' not; which is why I used the words "possibly", "appeared (to me)" and punctuated with a question mark.

But, as Not So Perfect also suggested; the fact that his memory doesn't serve him so well now - as regards this period - it does not follow that he did not know what he was doing at the time?

If I could ask you if you have read a particular magazine interview* with Bob Greene (I think, prior to the release of Constrictor), you may want to reconsider. In it, I think Alice expresses some considerable concern over the fact that he had reached a point where he had released six albums "that nobody bought", and so it was upon this basis that I made my suggestion.

Surely by the sixth album where he has not managed repeat his previous success he would be 'striving hard', wouldn't he? Just a thought.

*If I can find it, or recall it I will post details.
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Post by Maurice » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:50 am

WickedYoungMan wrote:

Of course.. Ubangi Stomp is actually a cover song though.


Thanks WYM, I don't think I was fully aware of that.
I noted Chas. Underwood was credited with writing, but
do you know who recorded the original?
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Post by Maurice » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:42 pm

Maurice wrote:
WickedYoungMan wrote:

Of course.. Ubangi Stomp is actually a cover song though.


Thanks WYM, I don't think I was fully aware of that.
I noted Chas. Underwood was credited with writing, but
do you know who recorded the original?

Not that anyone will be too interested in this; (except perhaps to say "Proof, if proof were needed"), there are at least 21 cover versions of this song since 1957 and Warren Smith is credited with the original.

Yeah, ok, I agree with you, why did I bother! :/
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Post by Maurice » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:45 pm

Maurice wrote:
flashfearless wrote:
Maurice wrote: possibly because Alice appeared (to me) to be striving hard for a 'direction' at the time?
Oh, come on. Alice even says that he doesn't remember making the record. Is he lying?
If I could ask you if you have read a particular magazine interview* with Bob Greene (I think, prior to the release of Constrictor),

*If I can find it, or recall it I will post details.

I am sure it was Esquire Magazine -not found the date yet though.
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Post by steven_crayn » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:34 pm

The Stray Cats do a good version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WcRAEUFKRU

There is also a version by this band called The Runaway Boys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nXvjYve ... re=related

plus there is this version by The Slippers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfEVvoyP-pY

Not forgetting Jerry Sikorski Combo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFNCS-KqjI0

Even a Ska version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucBtNyIatF8

Are you Ubangi Stomped out yet?

Ok lets hear the original by Warren Smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTZ4UzuAaw
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