From Toronto Bob: "Odd how there's a note that says "Not for Sale in the USA"." No. The reason for that is that the company releasing this believes that this recording was originally a radio broadcast (there is no evidence I or any other collectors are aware of that this is the case) and while such ...

From Toronto Bob: "No we're talking about the SO jam on Old School, which isn't included on this album Yes, you're right. My apologies. The only recording I'm aware of is the stereo recording of the complete show which I have heard but there is no way of knowing if that originally came from a multi ...

From pitkin88:
"Wonder if it's from the same source."

The recording on "Old School" is of a show from St. Louis, whereas the recording being discussed is of a show in Manati, which is in Puerto Rico, on the same tour.

From SickThings:
"I've always assumed it was the effect Ezrin (?) wanted."

Yes, although he was never really happy with his mix on the original recording. For example, the vocals could have been more prominent.

From wind_up_toy:
"I think the first appearance with MM was an impromptu show-up at one of his (Manson's) shows."

It was at a show in Romania where they wore both on the bill. They met up for the first time that day and decided to do it with no rehearsal.

From pitkin88:
"So it is six tracks then thanks Amuk."

Good try but I never said that. As stated, you can write to the label if you're desperate to know.

From pitkin88: "Someone knows but he could be excommunicated If he breathes a word." Do you reveal information you have been asked not to? Anyone who desperately needs to know the answer now can go directly to http://www.ear-music.net/en/meta-navigation/contact/ which is the source. If they refuse t...

From pitkin88:
"I'm sure the Alice Camp will echo Andy's plea to ignore all future teasers no matter how good they are."

Let the record show how you commented on only one of the two positions thereby removing the context.

From Si: "I think that maybe in the long term that video (and images) almost did more damage then good, as it set us up for something that the album really didn't deliver on, and that has affected our perception of it ever since." Exactly, which is why it's just as silly to think the new album is go...

From pitkin88: "I really can't imagine the pain Alice criticism causes you. I'm guessing Guttermouth has a dossier next to my filing cabinet now." It isn't about not criticising Alice - it's about whatever anyone in his postion does, someone somewhere is going to criticise it. It means all our opini...

From pitkin88:
"I'm sorry but knowing or not knowing if Disco Blood is a parody does not make it any less of a turd."

Neither does it make it anything less than a really good track if that's what one's taste dictates.

From pitkin88: "Are you referring to the lyrics on Constrictor, RYFAY and Trash?" All those albums have as many good examples as bad examples. That doesn't make all the examples bad. >There hasn't been a lot of great Alice lyrics in a long time. There are still many examples though, so I would have ...

From guttertrash: "but what frustrates me is when marketing says it will be something likable to those who love something that it turns out not to be, and for people to sit and act like nothing has changed when that is untrue." Which "marketing said that? As much as I like the song, I don't see it a...

From guttertrash" "But I personally understood that Disco Bloodbath was a parody of being in a club and dealing with the hip-hop generation and how that is a nightmare to him." That certainly wasn't what you originally stated. > It just makes people ask "what the hell?" No, it makes YOU "ask" that.

From Saint&Sinner: "It just seems people want a certain album and they wont be happy unless they get it." Exactly. Not only that but, as has been discussed before, everything Alice does is wrong. The wrong lyrics, the wrong shows, the wrong titles, the wrong costumes, the wrong musicians, the wrong ...

From guttertrash: "I feel like that sums up the complaint by many people. This kind of humor falls flat to even a good portion of people on this forum." Since when was "this forum" the most accurate guage of anything? >If the joke falls flat to much of the audience, it was delivered wrong, and this ...

From guttertrash: "I know quite a few people who missed the point then" So did most people, even when Alice and the band were at their peak, commercially. >and maybe if it takes some esoteric message to explain the point, the humor wasn't properly conveyed. So having complained about dumb lyrics, do...

From I'm Pain:
"If you're going make a comparison of sorts to show satire - you don't want to put IBYFO up against I Love the Dead."

Who is doing that? This is starting to get silly. All I've ever stated was that you can't judge a song just by a title.

From guttertrash: "Taken on it's on, I'll Bite Your Face Off about falling in love with a female zombie." Actually, she's a vampire. >Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever is the most cringeworthy thing he ever did in my opinion. The modern pop music and rapping is horrendous. I get where they wanted to go, ...

From guttertrash: "Amuk, I honestly don't see how you can see I Love The Dead and Sick Things as being cut from the same cloth as IBYFO. The production, the music, the lyrics, and the performance of those songs all gave a darkness to those songs among much of the early catalog that is not seen at al...